Intergalactic Summit

It appears to me that most of the hex code is simply wrapper for the communication channel. In previous encounters with rogue intelligences, it was clear from syntax that these entities were trying to achieve expression within their transmissions - I do not see that here. I suggest that we apply an assumption of simplicity here - that wherever Dr. Tukoss is, he is having a very difficult time keeping the channel open.

I suspect the Sleepers themselves would have similar issues. Dr. Burreau disappeared, and Hilen a couple of years later. My presumption is that they both went the same place, and Hilen is attempting to return. I am more interested to determine who his acting henchmen are that placed the receptacle in Eram.

I do however agree that withholding the items (presuming they haven't already been handed over) pending a clear explanation of their intended use is the wiser part of discretion.

Says the guy who was, just a few weeks ago, trying to lead a security division in said committee...why the change of heart?

-Eran

Progress will not be impeded by Empire lap dogs.

Mister Sealbreaker,

I agree with your sentiment, but I fear your words will fall on deaf ears. In fact, it is quite possible we are already past the point of no return. And even if that is not so, it will not be to long until we are.

To understand why your efforts to retain control in a scenario such as this will likely come to nil, one must examine the mindset of the people contributing - Or perhaps of pod pilots in general.

Capsuleers are creatures who are defined in nature primarily by two qualities:

1. Greed. And when I say greed, I do not simply mean terms of money alone, though I do certainly mean that. Rather, I refer to a general craving for abstract gain in both social and literal terms with no clear end objective in mind; To be more powerful, to be more respected and widely known, to recieve rare and valuable things others don't have. Or, failing that, to be paid attention to by people who already have the above.

2. A lack of any fear of consequences, whether pertaining specifically to oneself or to the wider community. The Capsuleer existence is a static one, without pain or want, or even unwillful physical change. When your quality of life can seemingly not be fundamentally worsened by any decision, it is only natural that those decisions lose inherent meaning and value. Why not take risks? Why not wilfully make bad choices just to see what happens? Without deterrent, the inherent basis of rational decision making breaks down.

Together, these two factors make it almost inevitable that Dr. Tukoss, after promising the earth, will get what he wants. Since no one involved will face any consequences, (since even if it does lead to some sort of disaster, it likely won't affect them) some people will contribute out of pure curiosity. Others will do it out of a mere desire for power. But probably larger then both of these groups are the people who will do it because they are aware of the above two and are afraid that if they don't act and abide by the "rules", someone else will do it instead and take all the glory/rewards in their place.

With this in mind, merely pointing that something is off (which is obvious) will not serve to change anyone's course, even if they believe it. Take Anslo, for example. Despite his sometimes thorny demeanour, he is not at all a fundamentally unintelligent man - I am sure that even if he trusts Dr. Tukoss, he is ultimately aware that many aspects of this whole scenario are, to at least some extent, frankly pretty dubious. But why should he not go ahead with contributing anyway? After all, he stands to gain quite a lot if his promises have even a sliver of truth in them, and even in the worst case scenario all that occurs is that he gains nothing, and his act still serves as a stern statement against the people he dislikes and perceives as corrupt.

So, what should compel him against it? What should compel anyone against it, for that matter?

That is, in short, the inevitable Capsuleer response. If there is a rope, it will be pulled. If there is button, it will be pressed. If there is a door, it will be opened.

Your best bet, to be honest, might be to actually prepare to work against Dr. Tukoss under the assumption that he will succeed. That way, if things do go sour, the project will be better prepared.

Miss Ikiryo,

Thank you for this long and detailed answer. You quite nailed the mindset of most capsuleers these days.
And I agree with your examples too. I'm sure it's no coincidence that you mentioned Anslo, who I had a little friction with in the symposium thread.

I, too, believe him to be an intelligent man, and I can understand the eagerness of all those who choose to help Dr. Tukoss. Fame. Power. Recognition. Perhaps more importantly, the impression to be a part of something new, the chance to give birth to something incredible, world-changing.

I can understand these desires. I wouldn't be such a good scientist if I wasn't, too, driven by curiosity. But I am also an old man. Perhaps age isn't a very relevant notion in this "empyrean age" anymore. Yet I've lived many things, both before and after becoming a pod pilot. I will not pretend that time always brings wisdom, but it dulls the thirst for fame and power. I realize this is a cliché, but perhaps it would have been wiser to wait and question this time.

I do not plan to unite all the drifting chucks of Arek'Jalaan. I would not even necessarily be put in a position of power in the organization, even according to my own structure proposal, so claiming any authority would be foolish. But I urge all those who still have an interest in what (the real) Dr. Tukoss created to re-read the last sentence of our Mission Statement:
The work we do is intended to help humanity, and science as a whole, not just the capsuleer military-industrial cycle. Arek'Jaalan stands apart from the destructive mainstream; as an alternative way for capsuleers to use their unique capabilities.

Those who want to achieve this objective will need to get rid of these impulses, these capsuleer desires, and become a part of mankind once again.

As for the preparation we will need to undertake, you may very well be right. But this will be for Arek'Jalaan's Council to decide - whatever form it may take. In the end, I, too, will follow my own path, with Arek'Jalaan or not.

Ms. Ikiryo, their DNA was also the source of their downfall.

For those, looking for "immortality" and "prolonged life", I can say this:
Don't try to fool the Maker and the Death, you will fool only yourself instead.

As for the teleportation, and its... well... results, I would prefer my ship to stay in one peace. Moreover, I would prefer myself to stay as a one piece as well.

((Again im **** at rp))

I feel like the whole "Nuuuuu Hilen is dead, hes not real" debate is just a excuse for the "council" to not hand over their jovian parts

I was quite honored to be the one to transport the bone splinter, to hold this rare and priceless entry, this peice of a actual (May he rest in peace) jovian being, as a 9 month old pilot, the feelings were very overwhelming

But I donated it, as I want this project to advance further, but this trival paranoia was unappealing



And frankly if you have a jovian part, What are you doing with it? Besides starting at it

I do not mean to add fuel to the fire, and this is a sincere question:

I completely plead "guilty" of trying to push forward people who were trusted contributors of the former Arek'Jalaan. I can see why you would see this as a "clique", but it's frankly common sense to me. With the considerable resources at Arek'Jalaan's disposal, it's not reasonable to offer just anyone a chance to rise to a position of power. You wouldn't appoint me director of Scope Works just because I waltzed in with a smile and a lot of promises. I does not mean the willing individuals should not be given a chance to rise after the initial restructuring.

But even if we can agree to disagree on this, Anslo, my question is: wouldn't the blind faith you seem to have in "Dr. Tukoss" the mother of all "cliques"? Let's consider a moment he's still the same man, but with a crappy transmitter. Even then, isn't trying to get him "whatever he needs" without questions, a bit like electing him in the biggest popularity contest ever?

Your loyalty is commendable, Anslo, but misplaced. Protect the man's work, his legacy. Not what seems to be the man himself.

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Edit to avoid multiposting - on a side note:



(( You said yourself that you're bad at roleplaying. It's okay, welcome in it! It comes with practice :) Feel free to visit OOC, the ingame channel, and I'm sure we could give you interesting hints and have meaningful discussions there :)
This is a good example of metagaming.

Please be sure that I share your opinion completely: if giving these materials opens a door for unspeakable evil, I'm all for it. Content! Exactly, couldn't have put it any better. However, this is my point of view as a player, not of Gehen as my character. Some of us have to play the old overprecautious farts ;) Hell, some even play members of True Slave Foundations. *tips hat*

However, don't fear about us stalling content. CCP will push whatever they want to push forward, no matter our reaction. We can merely influence the way it's done. And remember: this is the sandbox. Hilen Tukoss is a CCP actor: if the "new Arek'Jalaan" spits in his face in a completely unexpected way, I'm pretty sure he'll be like "Holy crap, these guys are ballsy and unpredictable. Gotta love the sandbox!" And they will always find another way of getting the ball of content rolling. A ball we help to roll. ))

We would note that the vast majority of communications channel carrier-code does not attempt to locate synonyms for words within the message whilst transmitting the aforementioned message.
The code held within the OP of this thread, on the other hand, does just that.

We Return.

The terms, both searched for and used, in the coded section of the OP are commonly used terms.
however, Heated and Warm, when taken in the context of the remainder of the statement bear completely different meanings.

We do not believe this is coincidence.

We would also note that the remainder of the text is written clearly in the commonly used intergalactic trade language.
In our previous encounters with pilot Tukoss, we noted that his grasp of this language was good to fluent.

Investigation continues.
We Return.