Ships & Modules

Hello eve community was hoping people smarter than me could provide advice or perhaps a possible ships that could compete vs a worm. Can be specialized as hell if need be.

lets say standard buffer worm since im not sure it's even possible to take out the dual asb version with just a single ship since asb's are allowed to have 2 and be neut proof.... side bar why are 2 aar's not allowed you can counter with neuts and armor is the defense where you need 2 just to equal one oversized shield repper.. go figure... anyway back to point.

I was thinking perhaps firetail/dramiel could maybe have some success because of dmg selection or daredevil because of crazy dps but they seem to lack the tank to hold out vs the almighty worm... I thought maybe ecm jammers and put them on the 2 drones to try and negate a lot of the dps maybe dramiel or comet with 3 jam drones could maybe negate one drone for most the fight?

Would like to hear your thoughts and any succesful 1v1 wins vs non derp worms in novices or with a non t2 frig.

thx guys for any feedback and thoughts.

All things being equal (links/implants), the Worm seems to have the highest tank/dps combination along with a pretty high base speed. I think a dual-rep Astero could probably pull it off: kill his drones asap and use acolytes for em damage vs shields, but that'sassuming the Astero can catch the Worm in the first place.

Problem is: most Worm pilots carry snake implants and bring Links along, so they're a heinous pain in the arse to catch.

Garmur with links and a scram, plus a faction web to OH and ruin their speed, while you kill their drones. or a DD with a web for each drone, eat them with blasters and make them go away crying.

theres a diffrent issue...
if theres a counter to worm, and you will have it he will simply not warp to you (remepber hes a human, not npc)

haha this is also an amazing idea :)

If you don't lock him and land that insta-jam before he can assign his drones you're toast. It takes about 2 volleys from worm drones to pop a griffin. It happens VERY fast. Most worm pilots aren't going to let you get close enough for a scram/web so if you do manage to keep from being inst-popped by his drone's he's still probably going to just out run you and leave at that point.

The answer is... fly another worm. Otherwise there is no effective single ship counter for a worm that can fit in a novice.

A Griffin wouldn't be able to defeat the tank of the drones. Specially if the Worm Pilot is paying attention.


Honestly the only thing that comes to mind that can beat a Worm is a Garmur or something that can outrun the drones while keeping tackle. Or get another Worm and hope you can out DPS him before he out DPS's you,

I think the answer here is obvious, if the only counter for it is some extremely weird Griffin fit with a SeBo that will get instapopped if you're a second too late, it means Worms are OP.

A Worm will easily break that tank, even with heat and standard exile you're tanking just shy of 200dps, a kite Worm can put out 278dps with only 2 launchers (which many kite Worms seem to run) not to mention high alpha on the drones which makes it easy for the Worm to bleed you into hull between cycles. By the time you've caught him and started brawling, the fight would have been over for you, you still have to punch through close to 10k EHP not to mention the Worms weapons can't be neuted out.

The stats I was comparing it to is a simple T2 Worm with T2 rigs being the only pimp, this is the fit I was comparing it to:

[Worm, PvP Kite Cheap]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Shield Extender II

Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Core Defense Field Extender II


Hobgoblin II x1
Warrior II x2
Hobgoblin II x2

So basically you need a pimp fit, linked, implanted Cruor to even stand a chance against a Worm and frankly, even if the whole fight started as a brawl at 0m I'm still not sure the Cruour would win, you need heat and paste to tank the Worms dps which you can't run continuously for long and once the Worm is capped out you will cap yourself out very quickly to. The worm has an extremely large buffer for a frigate and the Cruor has very low dps.