Warfare & Tactics

Hello eve community was hoping people smarter than me could provide advice or perhaps a possible ships that could compete vs a worm. Can be specialized as hell if need be.

lets say standard buffer worm since im not sure it's even possible to take out the dual asb version with just a single ship since asb's are allowed to have 2 and be neut proof.... side bar why are 2 aar's not allowed you can counter with neuts and armor is the defense where you need 2 just to equal one oversized shield repper.. go figure... anyway back to point.

I was thinking perhaps firetail/dramiel could maybe have some success because of dmg selection or daredevil because of crazy dps but they seem to lack the tank to hold out vs the almighty worm... I thought maybe ecm jammers and put them on the 2 drones to try and negate a lot of the dps maybe dramiel or comet with 3 jam drones could maybe negate one drone for most the fight?

Would like to hear your thoughts and any succesful 1v1 wins vs non derp worms in novices or with a non t2 frig.

thx guys for any feedback and thoughts.

good suggestion I'm going to play devils advocate please counter if you feel i am wrong.

this was my thought but the worm gets same dps and more effective hitpoints. which I feel gives advantage to the worm because it will be doing full dps while the DD closes also worm will have unbonused web on dd prolonging the closing time. I don't see how a dd wins unless it lands on top. or worm warps into it and even then advantage seems to be going to worm maybe the fact DD can overload it's dps could win the day in second scenario

a) Nothing beats a worm but a worm in a novice, even shitfit worms will sneeze and you will die.

b) The type of player that sits in a novice in a worm will also have boosts/crystals and quite likely a cloaky bantam.

this is somewhat true but also disingenuous as you can say that about a lot of ships and a lot of pilots. Obviously the guys that do asshattery **** like that suck and you just take the kill and never fight them again unless you have 10 guys. I'm talking about a normal pilot who perhaps at most has implants and booster. I feel eve has a way to counter most anything.. there are ships like right now the worm is op'd but it will get nerfed just like dramiel when it was op'd.. However even when dramiel was op'd there were ways to counter it so just trying to find people with possible ideas or ways to beat the flavor of the month overpowered pwn mobile before they nerf it.

With that said what tactics and fit did the comet defeat you with super .. also any thoughts to something like a dramiel with jam drones and a jam in the mid while armor tanked .. then go after the drones since there are only 2 and they are light drones... any chance other ewar works on drone perhaps you can neut them out with neut drones? or td drones for instance if you take just one drone out you take about 100dps away from a worm.. that can be powerful..

thx for comments though guys this is helpful perhaps if you have ship suggestion you can post possible fit or tactics hopefully both...thx

does the speed of slicer/garmur or other kity ships mititgate the drone dmg enough to kill the worm seems like the drones do enough dmg when they catch up to drive a kity ship off... also thought they made drones faster?

two worms

A kiting ship with two webs for both drones.

Hookbill?

DD normally doesn't have enough tank. You can web 1 drone at a time, meanwhile you're eating dps from the other drone and missiles/rockets. Before you burn thru those 5 bonused drones daredevil's going to be blapped. If by some astral coincidende it does not, you still have to eat thruh the worm's massive tank if buffer, and can pretty much be permatanked by active tank pimp fits, untill it run out of cap boosters, which is gonna happen way after the DD's explosion, while being plinked by rockets or missiles. At this point, the DD's is likely going to be out of cap and out of paste in his AAR. Blap.

Really, the best thing you can do is simply load void, overheat web the worm and try blapping it faster than it can blap you. Kind of a coin toss there, if his drones miss a bit and he's not uber tanked, might have a chance.

The only DD i could see engaging a worm comfortably (except pimp active rep) would be 200mm fed navy plate, force field array, mag field stab, ANP II, coreli c AB, fed navy web, scram, blasters, trimarks. Has a bit less EHP than your standard worm but deals 360ish dps. But here we talking semi pimp fit vs normal worm fit.


@ op. Dual damp hookbill works great (gonna take ages to kill him tho), but you need to get a lock on him (and damps running) before he deploys drones. Garmur would be easy mode. If you're in the links and snakes crew, anything kitey will outrun his drones comfortably

People who try to get fights in Worms are people who will most likely have links and drugs running.

Deny them their fun. All they're after is cheap kills.

Wom is such a stupidly good ship now, there just is no other frig that can kill it.

ah i see the strategy you're saying the dps is high enough it can actually kill the drones despite their huge tanks and has enough tank itself to survive long enough to kill them off...

i like this strategy I will try this. along with the hookbill idea