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Makes sense, in theory. I just think that SP is the only barrier, not actual skill. There is some skill in hacking quickly/efficiently, but level IV Hacking/Archaeology aren't that long a train, and ship/implants/rigs can overcome a lot of the differences. As to can modules and rigs for scanning, if that is where the player is lacking.

The danger level will be even for everyone that spent the time or the ISK to be able to scan them down. Scanning hasn't been difficult since we had to move our own probes around into formations. Now its very simple, and the only barrier is SP or modifications to overcome lack of SP.

Taking longer to scan down sigs doesn't really increase the danger anyhow, since you'll be cloaked and scanning. The only part of this that increases danger is the difficulty of the hack now. So, in that way, the increased time to find the sig is just an annoyance and not really creating a lot of gameplay.

I can understand it being a barrier to newer players, but it really isn't. It takes 30'ish days to get a character into a Covops, have scan-boosting modules, rigs and hack/arch to level IV. Add in some implants and you get someone on-par with the veteran.

Anyway, it seems like a pointless change is all I'm saying. I like the increased hacking difficulty and the environmental damage. The increased scan time doesn't add much as a barrier or for gameplay value.

Skill as a player, but thinking about the hacking involved unless you are extremely lucky at finding the system core, I doubt you could hack it.

And to answer the question on WH stuff. I will pose the questions tomorrow to SoniClover. This is just the first site of its kind however...

The scanning is easy mode at the moment. Even on crystal quarries and 10/10s I can bring probes down two steps at a time and still hit the signature without implants. Astrometrics V was also nerfed when they changed it from opening up the deep space probe to just strength modifier,...strength that was redundant due to the ease of the scanning, so this makes nicer cost/benefit ratio when considering to train all the way to V versus buying the implant.

As for being easy prey, well......you're playing EVE.

The hacking difficulty also makes sense, and more reason to train hacking V. A red core game can be blitzed and coherence wasted without much care, the only time you'd pay attention was if there was a tower in the can, otherwise it was insta win.

Can you imagine the wormholer tears if those actually took you to an actual wormhole system where you'd find the follow-up for the site?

Thankyou.

It would be cool if they added a few more hacking sites like this but with a few differences.

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One interesting thing that they can do is change it so that the clouds gave faction specific type of damage and if the containers were inside the clouds. The damage would also have to be proportional to the ship's signature radius so that it can be about equally difficult for both frigates and larger ships to run the sites. This site should be high value, and difficult to hack but not necessarily too difficult to scan down so that someone that isn't fit for exploring can still hunt the explorers, but would have a lot of difficulty completing the site.

Pilots would then have to give up something in their exploration fit to be able to tank the cloud damage while hacking, but they will also become more vulnerable to other types of damage. Even though they are more vulnerable, however, it would be risky for other pilots to just go in after them, if they are not also fit properly, and pilots that fit MWDs to their ships would not activate them because it would increase their signature radius and the damage received. Pilots can fit only target painters and be effective offensively, which would be really cool.

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Another cool thing that they can add is an alarm system in a different type of hacking site. The site can have the regular containers and an alarm system. Failing a container would trigger the alarm, which then would make the site available to warp to for anybody in the system for about 10 minutes. The security system would also send out an alert to pilots in the system. Imagine that type of mechanic in a WH system :)

The pilot can choose to hack the even more difficult alarm system first and disable it, but failing that would also make the site available to warp to and would alert pilots in the system as before. The security system would also decrease the number of hacking attempts possible for the containers to one. This site should be very difficult to scan down (only possible with high skills and good scanning equipment), difficult to hack and should have a high reward.

Your telling me random PVE fit ships getting teleported into a WH in my chain or even better into my home system wouldn't be the greatest change CCP have ever made???? Your wrong.

If Bob deems it to be, it will be.

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what fire cloud? nothing in the "all" overview, where is it? how do i get away from it... wtf?! (probably better if there was some indication of where the damage was coming from) or is this something to do with:

I think the problem with this is that we're very used to the "fluffy" clouds just being back drop, or a harvestable resource. The clouds in the site look exactly like every other cloud.

Would it be possible to maybe animate them so the plasma cloud had active lightning arcing through it or plumes/waves of fire in the fire clouds: anything that might cause a "ooo that might cause me damage" reaction rather than "oh, more fluff". The edges of the clouds are also quite hard to see, they fade out before the "edge" so you can take damage from what looks to be empty space.

When you get too close to the plasma chamber wreckage there is an explosion, a blast wave, all very obvious "hazards" the clouds are deceptive (can we shoot the chambers to trigger them? might try that next time).