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Evermore Prime
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-31 21:44:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Evermore Prime
Hello friends.

I tried to find answers about this subject in previous threads, but nothing I found really provided deep help.

So here's the question:

I'd like to know exactly what I need to train, to create a booster alt, for Solo PvP (or duo PvP if you're against calling linked PvP solo, makes 0 difference to me).

In all the Solo PvP videos I always see these elite PvPers using links (usually Loki it seems).

I guess the recipe is quite common and most people use the same setups, but I'm really not sure what that is.

So first of all I'd like to quote "Tau Cabalander" from another thread:

Quote:
Fleet commander (FC) and Wing commander (WC) are optional. Squad Commander (SC) and one squad member per squad are required. If you have a FC, you must also have a WC.

The smallest valid fleet, where bonuses are shared, is two people. This requires a Squad Commander with Leadership 1.

* Fleet Commander (FC). [Optional, FC must have at least Fleet Command 1]
* Wing Commander 1 (WC). [Optional if no FC, WC must have at least Wing Command 1]
* Squad Commander 1 (SC). [Required, SC must have at least Leadership 1]
* Squad Member 1. [Required, SC must have at least Leadership 1]
* Squad Member 2. [Optional, SC must have at least Leadership 2] and so on...

Leadership positions (FC, WC, SC) must have the skills for the people they command, or bonuses will not be shared (passed down) through them.

This I understand. Very well. Thank you Tau Cabalander.

Next question, is about other skills.
This site: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Warfare_links
Only makes me more confused to be honest.

Is there a guide that really explains things, so I can make sense of it in my head?

That after reading it, I know what I need to train my alt for solo Loki armor links for example, and how to fit it, and exactly what it will give me in boosts. Or for shield boosts, or for longer point range, etc... What are the comobs, is there T1/T2 variants? How NOT to fit booster alts, and even how to fly them (is it different than a scout alt?) would help!

Thank you in advance for any guidance, as I am quite lost in this matter atm.
Crazy Zillef
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-10-31 22:24:40 UTC
Alt? Doesn't sound too solo to me. Grow a pair and go true solo.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#3 - 2014-11-01 01:54:55 UTC
You probably need to read the info in the different categories' for the racial links/bonus's.
Then make the decision on what best helps YOU and the ship you plan on flying.

People pick Loki's because of range and speed links

Or Tengus for the bonus to shield links

Some folks like a combination of information and skirmish. Etc. Etc.

Also, some people use Command ships from a safe spot or POS. Others use T3 with cloaks to scout and then pick targets.

There are 3 paths to choose from:

Leadership and racial preference
T3
Command ship
Evermore Prime
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-11-01 02:40:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Evermore Prime
RavenPaine wrote:
You probably need to read the info in the different categories' for the racial links/bonus's.
Then make the decision on what best helps YOU and the ship you plan on flying.

People pick Loki's because of range and speed links

Or Tengus for the bonus to shield links

Some folks like a combination of information and skirmish. Etc. Etc.

Also, some people use Command ships from a safe spot or POS. Others use T3 with cloaks to scout and then pick targets.

There are 3 paths to choose from:

Leadership and racial preference
T3
Command ship

Thanks. I'm starting to get it now.

Its amazing how some extra words that are written in a 'simple' forum format can make you understand a whole other page that's written in a more formal manner.

So I re-read the whole Wiki page twice now, and I have a couple more questions:

Does the part where they explain about "Specialist Skill Bonus" apply for Solo boosting? (Command Bonus Multipliers).
And does italso apply for the Loki's Skirmish Warfare Links? (which indeed seem like the most needed form of boosting for solo PvP).

And as for fitting, how many Command Processors can a T3 fit, in other words how many active Warfare Links can a T3 activate at most?

Any more tips for fitting, and flying T3s as solo links (and how it differs from normal scouting) would be appreciated. Anything you could think that would be good to know please.

Thanks!

Crazy Zillef wrote:
Alt? Doesn't sound too solo to me. Grow a pair and go true solo.

Fine, call it duo PvP if it makes you feel les cheated.
If its in the game, its as intended.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2014-11-01 07:02:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Evermore Prime wrote:
Does the part where they explain about "Specialist Skill Bonus" apply for Solo boosting? (Command Bonus Multipliers).

Link-specific specialist skills (like Skirmish Warfare Specialist) only apply to the applicable links, and are a prerequisite for fitting those links, but not for using the ships.

Link-specialist 5 is required to use a mindlink implant. Standard mindlinks have one link-type bonus, but navy implants affect two link-types. Link-specialist 5 is also required to use T2 links.

Warfare Link Specialist skill is another matter, and applies to all links.

Evermore Prime wrote:
And does italso apply for the Loki's Skirmish Warfare Links? (which indeed seem like the most needed form of boosting for solo PvP).

Yes.

There are 3 links per link-type. A Loki is bonused for Armor, Siege, and Skirmish links, but can use any (even mining, but that would be comical).

Evermore Prime wrote:
And as for fitting, how many Command Processors can a T3 fit, in other words how many active Warfare Links can a T3 activate at most?

I honestly haven't tried a T3 booster since they were changed, so I can't answer that one accurately. Wild guess: 4 (with one high-slot used for covert cloak, but more might be possible as covert +5, nullifier +0, warfare +1, but after slots CPU is the limiting factor).

You need Warfare Link Specialist 5 to fit a Command Processor.

Evermore Prime wrote:
Any more tips for fitting, and flying T3s as solo links (and how it differs from normal scouting) would be appreciated. Anything you could think that would be good to know please.

T3 have smaller boosting power than Command Ships, and T3 have more link bonuses. T3 are used because they can also use a covert and nullifier subsystems along with the warfare subsystem. T3 are also smaller (cruiser-class) so they are harder to find with probes (smaller signature), as well as faster and more agile.

I don't know what the current meta is, but I typically used to fit for sensor strength after boosting, but that is probably less important now. A set of Halo implants might help (or Grail / Spur / Talon / Jackal, plus Sensor Compensation skill too). The idea being to make it harder to probe the booster.

[Odyssey 1.1] Warfare Links, Mindlinks, Gang bonuses
Rex Witsel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-11-01 13:18:55 UTC
Put links on KM's and let people decide for themselves if flying with umbilical cord is solo or not.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#7 - 2014-11-02 23:50:12 UTC
Crazy Zillef wrote:
Alt? Doesn't sound too solo to me. Grow a pair and go true solo.

Same can be said for posting on the forums in an alt..

... What next ??
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-11-03 23:19:46 UTC
I'm training one too. A couple of random suggestions:

. Search for some T3 link fits, then use Evemon to find out what skills you need for all the different modules

. Don't forget basic ship skills, such as engineering, navigation, tank, cloaking, etc.... Basically, weapons and targeting are the only unnecessary ones

. A common way to use them (in lowsec, at least) is to park them at zero on a gate. If you get aggressed, you will hear it (even if alt-tabbed on your main) and should have plenty of time to jump through, cloak and warp off (cloaky subsystem is essential). According to many, it's better than parking it at a safespot where you could always get probed down (even with awesome sig/sensor ratio) and then you'd die 100% of the time

. You'll need patience, something like 5-6 months patience for t2 links. I'm training it as a side-project when I don't need other stuff on my highest-SP alt

. Don't choose the T3 race based on link bonuses aone, they're relatively small compared to, say, using a Mindlink Implant. Choose something you like and might eventually also use for combat (or pve)

. Don't forget the skill to use the implant (cybernetics?)

. Be a cool dude and don't engage a T1 frig with a boosted T1 frig Big smile Instead, engage at least a couple of them at once Pirate

. Solo as much as you want (love it myself) but don't forget that any small gang or fleet will adore you if you bring along your linky t3

Have fun!

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Evermore Prime
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-04 12:05:11 UTC
Thank you Tau Cabalander and Gully Alex Foyle!
I appreciate your replies.
And I'm really getting this already. Its gonna be fun :-)
Crazy Zillef
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-04 21:42:05 UTC
GordonO wrote:
Crazy Zillef wrote:
Alt? Doesn't sound too solo to me. Grow a pair and go true solo.

Same can be said for posting on the forums in an alt..

Never said I was intending to solo post.