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Will it be possible to get 10/10s in high sec now then? According to the patch notes you won't get sent too a lower security system for an escalation, so I'm guessing they will occur in high sec now which seems a bit strange, as I don't think more low risk income streams for high sec will be a good idea.

Apologies for my ignorance, I only do null sec DED sites, so not sure how the high sec ones work atm.

Care to elaborate? Hard to discuss with yes/no arguments.

There is only one of me, so not "they". But yes, I prefer to cherry pick the good cans, having to hack each one would be time consuming and boring. There is more of a buzz also when you know a can is worth 100mil whilst actually hacking it. So all in all it is better gameplay.

*affect.

Besides that, it really wouldn't. Most, not all, but most of the cherry pickers I've been affected by don't have a cargo scanner equipped and instead grab the most difficult cans (ruins) and leave. I know because I routinely find 6-12 mil cans among the left overs.

No we don't. And the Dev opinion would support "cargo scanning" most likely anyway as they were the ones who implemented it in the first place.

When you fit up your ship you have a choice to sacrifice a mid slot and fit a cargo scanner or not. If all the loot was in one can I couldn't care less. In the end it boils down to isk/hour or effort/hour. if I spend an hour or two doing relics, and then go do something else for the rest of the day, then I get the best isk/hour, along with the best effort/hour, and at the same time get to screw over leeches like yourself who come along to **** an area of relic sites and then leave. (seeing as you are calling me a cherry picker, I hope you won't mind if I take the liberty to call people like yourselves leeches.)

If you want to promote pvp at these sites, which isn't a problem anyway atm given the amount of people that die at them, and even more so once these wormhole sites are implemented, then you'd put rats in them so people come equipped for combat.

6-12 mil might not be worth there/their time.



explain how we are leeches? cherry picking is the correct term for what you do.

what I do is de-spawn the site so that there is another full site out there to be found giving more potential good payouts to whoever finds it.

Leeches, because you come into a region simply to run all the relic sites in a pve ship without defending the space and leeching all of the relic loot from those who do so. This is fine, and it is a good way to get new players into null sec, and get them into scanning and hacking, but be under no illusion that you are leeching. It is the same as the salvagers that go around salvaging other people mission sites, it's good gameplay, but it's leeching.

Thing is you can't prove I'm a leech at all you are just calling me that. I don't own where I live cause its low sec and the WH I will be using has only my POS's in it so its owned to the best of my ability. Where as you are a self proclaimed cherry picker in this very thread.

Everyone who scans the can's is a cherry picker (or just bad at eve if they hack them all) but not everyone who runs relic/data sites is a leech. see the difference

Well if you cargo scan and warp out you aren't getting any loot, and generally there is at least one can worth hacking. Killing leeches, cherry pickers, the flying spaghetti monster for all I care, is no problem at all in the current system as I already pointed out countless times, there is no need to make any more changes for the sake of pvp, but if you are so interested in doing that then put rats in the best sites so people cant just fit nanos and stabs. Much better than removing a good feature like your suggesting.

6-12 mil would be an average value for a ruin, so I don't see a cargo-scanning cherry picker passing it up. Especially true as I've very, very rarely run into cherry picked sites where a ruin was left untouched, even though empty or carbon-only ruins are fairly common.

Although a better metric would be to simply ask the cherry pickers here if they would pass up a can that they knew held that value, especially if it's a can of only moderate difficulty. So, who's willing to answer?


Not true. I scan all the cans, and I blow up the ones that don't have anything of significance, despawning the site before I leave.