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There's something not right about Exhumers

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Crack Headz
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-11-03 23:10:46 UTC

Exhumers, the classic mining ships of EvE, were given a wonderful buff and re-balancing. And in particular the Skiff can be heavily tanked.

But, S.O.E. and ORE have always been lumped together with the Gallante, and the Gallante have always been armor tankers!!
I find this a bit disturbing that exhumers have so few low slots.

Since CCP is working diligently on re-balancing ships in Eve, why not shake up the Mining community in a new positive way with a buff and nerf that gives Exhumers the ability to effectively Armor Tank with more Low slots, Power Grid and Capacitor.

The YouTube Video that shows a Hulk fighting combat ships and winning has been seen by everyone, just about, in the Mining community. And this beloved display of David and Goliath is center to the struggle that many Mining Toons face everyday in EvE.

I propose that Exhumer/ Mining Barge Pilots be given the leg up that they deserve. An Asteroid crunching Ass kicking machine.

Armor Tank, PG, CAP that an Amarrian would be proud of. And why not a few extra High slots too for those Nuets.
Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-11-04 00:10:25 UTC
I don't mine and I'd fly it Big smile

Don't forget a nice big cargo hold for cap chargers.
Heather Austrene
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-11-04 01:21:25 UTC
Do that and they would fit a zillion mining laser upgrades and probably cpu rigs.
Danjun Zahid
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-11-04 07:26:57 UTC
mining boats are not designed to kick ass when mining Roll
Rockstede
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-04 07:51:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Rockstede
Though in reality if a mining ship can break something as solid as an asteroid apart, imagine what it could do to a tin can of a starship?


Would be hilarious if you could fight by mining parts of the attacking ship lol.


Captain - Open fire commander!!!

XO - Weapons systems are non-responsive sir, they appear to be missing.

Captain - Where the hell are they!?!

XO - Sensors indicate they are located in the cargo bay of that ship we were attacking sir, along with the TV antenna and the toilets from deck 6.

Captain - my god, those were the only toilets on the ship...

XO - yes sir, I believe we're "screwed".
Heather Austrene
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-11-04 08:05:12 UTC
Or if you were caught AFK a Noctis could tractor you off and salvage your ass.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#7 - 2014-11-04 08:33:07 UTC
Crack Headz wrote:
But, S.O.E. and ORE have always been lumped together with the Gallante, and the Gallante have always been armor tankers!!

While Gallente tend towards armour it's not true to say they have always been. Gallente ships for example were the first successful passive shield tanks, long before the Drake popularised the style.
Gallente Industrial vessels (and the Exhumers are industrial) have traditionally been shield or EWar tanked - of the Iteron marks IIRC only the MkV had the potential for a solid armour tank.
knaves england
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-11-04 09:30:22 UTC
its like most games take away the seal/club/gank easy kills then the seals clubbers will have nothing to do .the rest you decide
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-04 13:34:50 UTC
That would totally not mean more MLU + co-processor/CPU rigs. Nah totally not.

Or DDAs I guess...
Arcos Vandymion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-11-04 21:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcos Vandymion
Crack Headz wrote:

Exhumers, the classic mining ships of EvE, were given a wonderful buff and re-balancing. And in particular the Skiff can be heavily tanked.

But, S.O.E. and ORE have always been lumped together with the Gallante, and the Gallante have always been armor tankers!!
I find this a bit disturbing that exhumers have so few low slots.

Since CCP is working diligently on re-balancing ships in Eve, why not shake up the Mining community in a new positive way with a buff and nerf that gives Exhumers the ability to effectively Armor Tank with more Low slots, Power Grid and Capacitor.

The YouTube Video that shows a Hulk fighting combat ships and winning has been seen by everyone, just about, in the Mining community. And this beloved display of David and Goliath is center to the struggle that many Mining Toons face everyday in EvE.

I propose that Exhumer/ Mining Barge Pilots be given the leg up that they deserve. An Asteroid crunching Ass kicking machine.

Armor Tank, PG, CAP that an Amarrian would be proud of. And why not a few extra High slots too for those Nuets.




A Dominix?
Aplier Shivra
#11 - 2014-11-04 22:27:39 UTC
Rockstede wrote:
Though in reality if a mining ship can break something as solid as an asteroid apart, imagine what it could do to a tin can of a starship?


Would be hilarious if you could fight by mining parts of the attacking ship lol.


Captain - Open fire commander!!!

XO - Weapons systems are non-responsive sir, they appear to be missing.

Captain - Where the hell are they!?!

XO - Sensors indicate they are located in the cargo bay of that ship we were attacking sir, along with the TV antenna and the toilets from deck 6.

Captain - my god, those were the only toilets on the ship...

XO - yes sir, I believe we're "screwed".


You made a lack-of-toilet joke and went with "we're screwed" instead of "we're in deep sheeit". Shame on you, shame on your family!
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#12 - 2014-11-06 01:22:17 UTC
But imagine if a exhumer could switch the target of the mininglaser to the ganker. Maybe less damage and traction then an amarr one. But worth fighting with. So he had to stop mining, but would be able to fight back.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Rockstede
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-11-06 07:53:56 UTC
Aplier Shivra wrote:
Rockstede wrote:
Though in reality if a mining ship can break something as solid as an asteroid apart, imagine what it could do to a tin can of a starship?


Would be hilarious if you could fight by mining parts of the attacking ship lol.


Captain - Open fire commander!!!

XO - Weapons systems are non-responsive sir, they appear to be missing.

Captain - Where the hell are they!?!

XO - Sensors indicate they are located in the cargo bay of that ship we were attacking sir, along with the TV antenna and the toilets from deck 6.

Captain - my god, those were the only toilets on the ship...

XO - yes sir, I believe we're "screwed".


You made a lack-of-toilet joke and went with "we're screwed" instead of "we're in deep sheeit". Shame on you, shame on your family!



Well I didn't want the XO to come across as rude :(
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#14 - 2014-11-07 04:08:52 UTC
Heather Austrene wrote:
Do that and they would fit a zillion mining laser upgrades and probably cpu rigs.


let them trade survivability for yield, hopefully set up like that it has EHP such that a cata can gank it in 1.0

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Anneke Tersis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-11-07 11:57:21 UTC
Heather Austrene wrote:
Or if you were caught AFK a Noctis could tractor you off and salvage your ass.

Now THAT would be awesome. And the mining laser attack would be too.

Seriously if you're "caught afk" you deserve to die, and a ridiculous death is even more appropriate.

It doesn't need to be heavy damages, just enough to finally get a kill (like "shield and armor are ignored, 1% damage per second to the hull with 1000 m range", or something like that). It wouldn't change the game economy, the gameplay, nothing : it would just induce a few legendary situations and bursts of laugh. And it would make sense in terms of physics/lore/whatever you call it. So why not ?