EVE New Citizens Q&A

Ha, hiring someone else to fight is just as wussy response to war as not logging in, and doesn't solve anything anyway. Marmite Collective isn't going to be intimidated by a bunch of mercs. They would, I am sure welcome the additional war targets since they are conducting about 150 wars simultaneously anyway.

I wasn't whining about wardec game mechanics, in fact when war was declared, I made my willingness to fight known, fitted out 2 frigates and 2 destroyers for PvP, to be ready to fight as soon as the war was on even though I had/have zilch experience in PvP experience. Well almost no one else even logged in, except a couple players just as clueless and inexperienced as myself. So I went exploring in null and wormholes instead. But after a the war was renewed after a week, I went to the war avoidance corp, which was then wardecced, and to a third war avoidance corp, which was wardecced. And yes it is harassment to wardec a corp that you know will dissolve to avoid you, since you are spending money, not in any hope for combat but to force players to move from corp to corp or drop to NPC corp like I have. I'm not even particularly using "harrassment" in a bad way, it is the proper term for the tactic that was used here to punish/deter others for that war avoidance tactic.

The purpose of this thread wasn't to whine, but to explain what I wasn't happy about with previous corps, and to get advice on how to find a corp to fight with, without totally eliminating all other ways to make isk and play this game. And I have gotten some very good advice.

I don't have anything against wardeccers, I'm actually pretty impressed with Marmite Collective, and would consider joining them, but since they only fly really high-tech expensive blingy ships, I doubt they would be interested in my unskilled character. I didn't avoid war because I didn't want to PvP, but because trying to fight an alliance by myself would be pointless and stupid. But I would like to belong to a corp/alliance that can and is willing to field a reasonable force in response. And teach me a thing or two, obviously I am so new to this game.

I'm considering applying to a particular FW corp with really strong PvP history (based on evekill). But even after reading eveuni's article on FW I don't have a clear idea what faction war really entails or how much it will totally frack my standings, or how profitable it is.

Have you tried a power bloc?

Edit: mining in nullsec can be profitable with friends who rat on their spare time as they are able to help you secure a belt to rat in.

RvB sounds like a good fit for you. Perfect place to drop an alt and do some frigate combat without strings attached or any demands. Fleets are available if you want them, but you can drop out any time if people are getting on your nerves. It's the definition of casual PvP.

FW works too but it will have an impact on your standings / sec status. Comes with the benefit of being able to make some money while you PvP.

Well in general null corps want you on comms so that if something happens, no time is lost by first havijg to get 80% on comms before you can react to something.

The alliances I was in even had 2 general rooms for active pilots. 1 that was for all the people that wanted to chit-chat about the weather or what ever topic was going on. The other was for those being active in EVE but not 'speaking' because of other activities going on (listening to music, audiobooks or what ever). If needed the leaders / FCs could override and broadcast over all active channels (so anything not AFK or corp leadership/boardroom) to announce important stuff, which worked IMO. You could be in the 'quiet' channel and you were only bothered if the was something important or an emergency came up.

I am just going to throw this out there

i think you need 2+ toons ..

1 for pvp which you seem interested in doing .. i doesnt matter which corp you join - rules wise .. i think you would want to be on comms .. and youll be flying frigs and such in pvp .. not losing shinny pve ships . .. so no worries there.. whether you go high, low, or null wont matter .. your pvp'ing ..

and 1 for pve .. which you will put into a corp of your own making .. or settle for the tax rate in the npc corp. That way when you want to mine you can listen to your audio books or whatever.

when you log in you can chose what sort of mood you are in .. want to pvp .. then get on comms - get in fleet .. and have at err .. if not interested in the intensity of pvp and the forced human element then log into you pve toon and chill out.

I have found corps that allowed me to do both .. but there is no really good way other than being willing to spend time .. reading, posting .. and being patient about finding the right fit.. alot of null sec renters (blah blah blah haters gona hate) have PVE on their minds but do some pvp when needed .. finding a mature corp - with people who are individuals and team players at the same time is not impossible .. i have been in 4-5 corps like that over the years .. i have never been in a corp like the ones you have described .. so it is possible .. but i spent time looking for the right corp at first, merged with other like minded people, and played with people who i knew from other games and keep in touch with. Like minded people attract other like minded people.

dont rule corps out .. the benefits far outweigh the deficits in my opinion.

Keep looking. There are nullsec PVP oriented corps and alliances without the "too intense and full of rules" that do a lot of PVE (in null, in low, in high) in their "spare time." As was previously stated, got to pay for all that PVP somehow...

@Heather Austrene, you did the right not to join a corp/ally which is "concerned" about their killboard ratio. Good PvP pilots and i mean really good ones have lots of losses because they always try to push further and you learn a lot from losing ships.

Highsec wardeccing corps are pathetic, at the first sign of real resistance they stop undocking themselves to afraid to lose. Look out for a smallscale lowsec corp in your prime timezone, learn the ropes and you won't be bothered by any wardec anymore.

I think we got wardecced twice in our corp history by merc corps and everybody cheered on TS "yeah legal targets", the pity was the mercs never showed.....