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Confessions of a Transhumanist: On Life

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#1 - 2014-11-03 00:28:47 UTC
Confessions of a Transhumanist: On Life

Quote:
"...They believe that it is right and proper that all of humanity should be of one mind and purpose. I believe differently, I believe that if humanity has any divine purpose at all, it is to be an agent of chaos and conflict. This is not a bad thing, Greed is destructive, but destruction is not a negative force in the universe.

The old and rusty must be torn down to make way for the new and vibrant. Without destruction there would be no need for creation. The world would have no purpose except to endure, static, stagnant, forever...”

- This Dystopian Heaven, Writings by a capsuleer

Quote:
"While not the most explicitly supported of theories to the casual observer, one must admit that nothing seems quite as synonymous with divinity as acts of wholesale annihilation; in and of itself conceding the fact that the ultimate power is the ending of all that is.

If this is the case, that all of humanity is some dystopian migratory existence bound for an unreachable utopia, an expansion of the glorification of death, then what else is there for one of a learned mind and sound thought to do but to seek to become something other than human?”

- Response statement by Capsuleer Korinne

We were hunters once. We were explorers, foragers, wanderers and nomads. On Earth, that long lost forgotten seed of a homeworld, our ancestors first looked up to the stars in wonder. What dreams must those first human children have dreamed, long long ago in the genetic record? In those thousands of generations that have passed, are we so different now then then? If those long lost ancestors could see us now, astride the stars with the power of suns, yet still trapped in our childish human conflicts, what would they think of us? We who can not even peacefully put our little corner of space in order, riven with rivalries and hatred, is this truly to be our fate for all of time? Is our destiny of light to be defined by a perpetual sea of bloodshed that only grows with the population? Is this tortured existence, with so many suffering, really all that we can hope to achieve as a species? Is it truly human nature to be an agent of violence and conflict? Can we truly not do better?

It would seem that for many, we really cannot do better. The world is as it is, and we mere humans will never be able to achieve lasting peace or equality. Our human nature, as it would be put, is selfish, chaotic, violent and destructive, and that will never change. But is that truly human nature?

I do not believe that to be so. Before the Amarrians, the Minmatar Empire saw the longest period of peace and prosperity in recorded history. In nearly a thousand years, there were no major wars or conflicts. The nations of Matar, the tribes, were at peace with each other and created great works of science, expanding out across their solar system to settle the other worlds it contained. Does the destruction of this nation negate its existence, proof that humans destroy everything good they manage to make? I would not argue so.

Instead I would argue that the only fixed part of human nature is its mutability. We humans have spread like an infection across space. We’ve taken hold everywhere we can, from sun scorched balls of iron, to cold hunks of ice, from the bottom of the ocean to the skies of gas giants. We can learn, we can adapt, and we can change our minds. A child is not born with hate in their heart, hate is learned. Racism is learned, slavery is an institution, it has to be taught. On Caldari Prime, there was no concept of slavery until contact was made with the Gallenteans. Religion, both its good and bad aspects, have to be taught. And we can teach differently. We can teach peace, tolerance, acceptance, equality, and humanism. We can imagine a better world. And if we can imagine it, then we can make it real. Somewhere, long ago, the idea of travelling to those distant points of light in the night sky was seen as a manic fantasy, impossible at best. Now its a daily occurrence for billions of people.

The role of human imagination is to conceive of all these delightful futures, chose the most amazing, and then pull the present forward to meet it. These past two centuries of conflict will pass into history as everything else has. In 500,000 years, the age of our species lived again, what will we be? Will those beings even be able to call themselves human?

In that much time, we will have changed. The simple passage of so many generations will have changed us. The necessity will have changed us. We’re an adaptable species, one constantly moving forward, striving to do better. It will not be we who finally bring about the utopias of our dreams. It will be a species very like us, but with more of our strengths, and fewer of our weaknesses. More confident, farseeing, capable and prudent. For all our failings, despite our limitations and fallibilities, we humans are capable of greatness. What new wonders undreamt of in our time will we have wrought in another generation and another. How far will have our nomadic species have wondered, by the end of the next century and the next millennium?

We are not monsters. Simply because we are capable of being monsters does not make it a core trait of our species, something we can never escape from. We are capable of so much better, so much greater. A destiny of light awaits, and I intend to do everything in my power to reach for it.

Ad Astra Per Aspera
Saede Riordan
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#2 - 2014-11-03 00:52:33 UTC
Some of us have aleady been reaching for it, long before now. And it is certainly a worthy goal, the most worthy goal. Humanity must always move forward, work to better itself. It's a shame society as a whole has been slipping backwards over this last decade.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#3 - 2014-11-03 01:01:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Saede is a visionary, I believe. Her visions point us towards a path we could put our feet on if we wished our children's children to, one day, come over a rise and see utopia spread out before them.

Sad, indeed, that it would require the destruction of everything I am pledged to protect. This is how the file of the visionary often becomes marked "Engage on sight."

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#4 - 2014-11-03 01:06:28 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Her visions point us towards a path we could put our feet on if we wished our children's children to, one day, come over a rise and see utopia spread out before them.


That is a wish we should all have.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-11-03 01:09:48 UTC
Oft times, the innocence we wish to create for tomorrow requires us to become monsters today.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Jade Blackwind
#6 - 2014-11-03 02:16:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Blackwind
Quote:
In those thousands of generations that have passed, are we so different now then then?
No. We are the same.

Quote:
We are not monsters. Simply because we are capable of being monsters does not make it a core trait of our species, something we can never escape from.
Set a human being fully free and watch its actions. In most cases, those will be aimed at securing food, health, procreation. Unless the specimen is insane. But how many irreversibly damaged souls are out there, waiting to express themselves? The more complex the society gets, the more rules that contradict the basic set of instincts it impresses on its members. As the nature is repressed, the monsters are born. Different in different cultures, but still, they are the monsters; broken toys, full of pain which they share with their unlucky victims.

Freedom is not the return to harmony. Freedom, first and foremost, means facing the legion of monsters. For a man, the monsters are his fears and his past. For a society, the monsters are those repressed by the norms, all across the spectrum.

And, as the man lifts a stone and throws it at the weakling he dislikes, he finds out that there is no one to punish him; and he grins, and two more monsters are born that moment, ready to kill each other: one, for fun; another, for revenge.
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2014-11-03 03:54:04 UTC
The human-centric view that is espoused in the above musings is just another incarnation of the egotism that spawns the conflict, rivalries and hate that the author bemourns so much. The idea that human 'adaptability' allows for a human made 'progress', that is the solution to all problems is just the expression of the age old human hubris that makes us believe we can be our own creators.

Nor is it necessity that shapes us so that we are morally better: Not changing into another species is what solves ethical problems. Ethical behaviour isn't something that is rising from necessity, it is not brought about by evolution.

Though the human ability to imagine all kinds of futures and then to pursue them is what opens up the space of ethics it is what is opening to us the possibility to do good as well as evil. Neither adaptability nor imagination guarantee that we or our children do better. Ethical behaviour, thus, remains always a personal struggle. Right education is an invaluable help up to the point of being a necessity in pursuing a righteous life, but even that doesn't prevent anyone from failing if the test finds them.

The greatest problem here is that humans again and again take the means to be the ends in pursuing what is good. They think that if they can produce more efficent, that then production is automatically better - in an emphatic, ethical sense of 'better'. Or they think even that what is 'good' is simply up to what humans define as such. That the future we imagine as 'best' must be the best and that if we can imagine it, then it must be realizable. But that isn't how it works. At all.

Just look at Sansha: What he wanted is what he imagined to be best. The realization of his dream, though, was and continues to be a nightmare.

It is not up to us to simply pick the future we like best. In our imagination it might be wonderful if 'everyone could do what they liked', but such imaginations don't survive reality. (Just like it would be great in imagination if we could all decide for ourselves whether to drive on the one or the other side of the street - while in reality it is good if everyone drives either to the right or the left, but not some, that feel like it, drive right and the others, that feel differently, left.) There are objective standards to what is right and what is wrong, good and evil - and it is not for humans to make those standards, but for us to discover them and to accept them, to conform to them.

Humans already have the capability to do so. Doing better isn't achieved by pursuing some amazing imagined delightful future: It is achieved by hard work on your own character and going through the hardship of discovering and adhering to the moral law that just as much as the laws of nature are part of the cosmos.
Louella Dougans
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
#8 - 2014-11-03 06:38:40 UTC
Humanity may not be monsters, but you sure are.

Liam Antolliere wrote:
Oft times, the innocence we wish to create for tomorrow requires us to become monsters today.


Have a look at this:
Sade Riordan confesses to vivisecting people to "look for consciousness".
There's more as well, have a look for yourself.

Nicoletta Mithra wrote:

Just look at Sansha: What he wanted is what he imagined to be best. The realization of his dream, though, was and continues to be a nightmare.


She supported Nation in the past, being an ally of True Slave Foundations. And when that wasn't "popular", with members of "the summit" channel, she was one of the persons leading those Angel Cartel raids on planets, including those planetary bombardments. But when people didn't like that, oh no, suddenly the Cartel were "evil", and she claimed to renounce that.


So, she can take her half-baked pseudophilosophy, that was probably plagiarised from somewhere else, and ram it.

Also, hahahaha, she mentioned Earth.

Be a Space Nun, it is fun. \o/

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#9 - 2014-11-03 13:55:38 UTC
Transhumanism is a sin against a holy and righteous God. All Transhumanists follow the path of the Jove — the path of Apotheoisis and Gnosis — and shall have meted unto them the same punishment that a holy and righteous God meted unto the Jove. Any Chosen who follows the path of Transhumanism has thrown away his entry ticket to Paradise and shall glorify God in his destruction.

(P. S. Vivisection is not all bad. When performed within the strict confines of a God-glorifying ritual sacrifice of a filthy Minmatar subhuman upon the altar of God, vivisection is not only morally permissible but morally praiseworthy. However, the vivisection of tourists of random bloodlines in pursuit of transhumanist scientific aims is not morally permissible, but instead heaps up wrath for the vivisector in God's mighty storehouse of wrath. Amen. Amarr Victor.)
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#10 - 2014-11-03 14:47:18 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Saede is a visionary, I believe. Her visions point us towards a path we could put our feet on if we wished our children's children to, one day, come over a rise and see utopia spread out before them.

Sad, indeed, that it would require the destruction of everything I am pledged to protect. This is how the file of the visionary often becomes marked "Engage on sight."


While I have mixed views about Saedes actual overall ideals and objectives, I would not, speaking generally, say that opposing any vision is paticularly tragic. Remember all prospective changes are defined not by their virtues alone (anything can look pretty if you stick it in a plastic box) but also by their ability to handle criticism and worm their way pleasantly into peoples comfort zones by way of structures that already exist, as the best revolutions happen without anyone even noticing. And bombarding someone with kinetic missiles is a form of criticism - Just a paticularly strong sort.

Ideas are rather like fashion; If it is good, you will scoff at it in the fall, mock it in the winter, and then wear it in the spring. But if it is bad, you will never think about it at all.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#11 - 2014-11-03 15:02:51 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Transhumanism is a sin against a holy and righteous God. All Transhumanists follow the path of the Jove — the path of Apotheoisis and Gnosis — and shall have meted unto them the same punishment that a holy and righteous God meted unto the Jove. Any Chosen who follows the path of Transhumanism has thrown away his entry ticket to Paradise and shall glorify God in his destruction.


You are a capsuleer. That makes you a transhumanist.
JP Eulienne
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-11-03 15:09:47 UTC
Surely that just makes him transhuman.
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#13 - 2014-11-03 15:11:50 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
Transhumanism is a sin against a holy and righteous God. All Transhumanists follow the path of the Jove — the path of Apotheoisis and Gnosis — and shall have meted unto them the same punishment that a holy and righteous God meted unto the Jove. Any Chosen who follows the path of Transhumanism has thrown away his entry ticket to Paradise and shall glorify God in his destruction.


You are a capsuleer. That makes you a transhumanist.


Technically speaking, it only makes him a transhuman, miss Kernher. He might not like the present state of affairs at all. Who can say - Perhaps he was kidnapped, and the multi-million ISK surgical routine was cruelly forced upon him! And now he simply can't seem to find where he left the neocom details of his clone provider so he can cancel it, and so has no choice but to keep coming back to life.

He seems to be enjoying himself quite a lot, though, so I doubt it.
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#14 - 2014-11-03 15:12:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Gwen Ikiryo
Oh, rats, someone beat me to it!
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-11-03 17:08:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
While I have mixed views about Saedes actual overall ideals and objectives, I would not, speaking generally, say that opposing any vision is paticularly tragic. Remember all prospective changes are defined not by their virtues alone (anything can look pretty if you stick it in a plastic box) but also by their ability to handle criticism and worm their way pleasantly into peoples comfort zones by way of structures that already exist, as the best revolutions happen without anyone even noticing. And bombarding someone with kinetic missiles is a form of criticism - Just a paticularly strong sort.

Ideas are rather like fashion; If it is good, you will scoff at it in the fall, mock it in the winter, and then wear it in the spring. But if it is bad, you will never think about it at all.


Very well said.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#16 - 2014-11-03 17:14:02 UTC
The only constant in human nature is change.

Slow, gradual change, permeating the very core of the human soul, slowly eroding the mountains of tradition built by generations upon generations. Some say it could be quite elating to see the subtle differences unfold themselves in time; that I do not know, I haven't been alive for long. But it is conflict that drives that change; the very adaptiveness that has spread us throughout the cluster is borne out of necessity. For had everything been perfect, the people that travel through the stars would have stayed home.

Look at the Jove, at what they have become: they have removed themselves so far above the ordinary human. They are perfection. Nothing left to strive for. And they are dying off, nothing but a candle in the wind. And it's us that shall replace them.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-11-03 17:34:51 UTC
If they were perfect, they wouldn't be supposedly dying off, would they? Perfection means "without flaw". Dying off might reasonably be considered a flaw, and therefore incompatible with perfection.

That being said, for the lives of me I don't know where this whole "the Jove are dying/dead" thing came from. Last I checked, the most we know of them is that they're reclusive and scientifically accomplished. People seem to be taking it as an established fact that they're slumping into extinction via some kind of gripping social ennui, but every challenge I've thus far made to produce a credible source for that rumour has gone unanswered.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Tarqeus Prime
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-11-03 19:36:24 UTC
Are you the same Saede riordan who helped the Cartel destroy the Genesis vaults containing the ecological heritage of the Matari people ?
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-11-03 20:24:03 UTC
I feel I should clarify, in light of Mademoiselle Dougan's response, that my original statement was not meant as a judgment or justification on or for any single individual. Instead, it is meant to simply illustrate that often times we strive to remove from tomorrow the sins and evils we ourselves commit.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2014-11-03 22:21:00 UTC
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
While I have mixed views about Saedes actual overall ideals and objectives, I would not, speaking generally, say that opposing any vision is paticularly tragic. Remember all prospective changes are defined not by their virtues alone (anything can look pretty if you stick it in a plastic box) but also by their ability to handle criticism and worm their way pleasantly into peoples comfort zones by way of structures that already exist, as the best revolutions happen without anyone even noticing. And bombarding someone with kinetic missiles is a form of criticism - Just a paticularly strong sort.

Ideas are rather like fashion; If it is good, you will scoff at it in the fall, mock it in the winter, and then wear it in the spring. But if it is bad, you will never think about it at all.


Specificity is less the issue for me than a vague understanding that, at best, I represent / serve a very iterative attempt at perfection. The State constantly seeks to improve itself, but it does so based on a pattern - and it cannot easily encompass a change that defies the basic fundamentals of that pattern.

And I know what I am capable of in defence of my chosen system. What wouldn't I do to protect it? What does that make me?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

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