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Please remove automatic stacking in PI
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Les Conrads
JoghLes
#1 - 2011-12-14 13:50:42 UTC
Automatic stacking of goods on the orbit-side of customs offices.

It is a strange and kinda useless addition to planetary interaction. I used to have neat stacks of materials in the customs, ready to feed factory planets. Now it automatically joins them into hardly usable bundles.
As we (for some strange reason) still can't draw a set amount (say 1000 pieces) off of MANY stacks AT ONCE, I have to either copy paste my number 9 times or type it.

The drag selection we got in the new expansion should make it easy enough to select several exported stacks from the customs, even without the new stacking functionality.

Or - give us an option to turn that behaviour on and off.
Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-14 14:44:54 UTC
What are you doing that requires multiple stacks? One of my optimization goals while setting up my factory planets has been to match like products. (Which doesn't work out for my 72 hour runs of the easy P4s, I have to split two stacks in half.) You can have all of your factories pulling from the same stack of goods. (or fractions of multiple stacks that add up to the usage rate.)
I just wish I could tell the factories to use up whatever you can find from anywhere you can find it.
Les Conrads
JoghLes
#3 - 2011-12-14 15:15:12 UTC
It's usefull to have a storage of goods in the customs office. I have several storage fillings worth of materials in the customs - I fill it up once every few production cycles, but only have to import to planet in the meantime. I used to just select the appropriately sized stacks, pull them to the planet and be done with it. Now I have to take the stacks ONE BY ONE and drag the right amount over to the planet.
It's just how I use it - and the fact, that this new feature removes a bit convenience from the not at all interesting PI business, without adding anything in return, which made me sad.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#4 - 2011-12-14 15:48:18 UTC
Droxlyn wrote:
What are you doing that requires multiple stacks? One of my optimization goals while setting up my factory planets has been to match like products. (Which doesn't work out for my 72 hour runs of the easy P4s, I have to split two stacks in half.) You can have all of your factories pulling from the same stack of goods. (or fractions of multiple stacks that add up to the usage rate.)
I just wish I could tell the factories to use up whatever you can find from anywhere you can find it.


The main place this is a PITA is in cases where you have a factory planet with multiple LPs. So if I want to import three stacks of 12000 units, I have to delay the stack splitting until I'm at the customs office, rather then being able to pre-split the stacks ahead of time when I'm in the station.

Or I have to load the stacks, one set at a time, into the CO, and then import them before I load the next set into the CO.
Droxlyn
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-14 16:06:07 UTC
My factories have 3 launch pads.
Sample medium P4:
RCM:
Synthetic Synapses T:HV-GRC
-Super Tensile Plastic T:HV-GRC
-Test Cultures T:HV-GRC
Guidance Systems M:WW-GRC
-Water-Cooled CPU M:WW-GRC
-Transmitter M:WW-GRC
Transcranial Microcon B:NV-GRC
-Nanites B:NV-GRC
-Biocell B:NV-GRC

3 days of production from p2 to p4 fills up the three pads. (From P3s it doubles the time, but you can't go over 100 hours due to the size of the p4s and launch pads.)
HV, WW, and NV-GRC are the labels of the launch pads.

But it looks like you're doing a p1 to p2 factory planet with balanced #s into 3 pads. Try making two of your pads 100% of each material and only splitting the third.

BTW, I thank you for making what I need.
Scoto Timta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-12-20 20:32:23 UTC
Personally, I like the auto-stacking. It speeds things up for me when I fly to the CO and transfer stuff from there to my hauler. I typically transfer from planet to orbit for a few days (gotta keep the LP from overflowing) then haul. No need to grab 4 stacks of stuff from the CO when I get there. I know, ctrl-A wasn't that hard, but the new way is slightly more convenient and I like it.

I guess you can't please everyone. Smile
Scoto Timta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-20 20:39:36 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:
The main place this is a PITA is in cases where you have a factory planet with multiple LPs. So if I want to import three stacks of 12000 units, I have to delay the stack splitting until I'm at the customs office, rather then being able to pre-split the stacks ahead of time when I'm in the station.

Or I have to load the stacks, one set at a time, into the CO, and then import them before I load the next set into the CO.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue, but why not drop the stack of 36000 into the CO, then split it as you warp back to station, using shift-drag to put 12k into each LP? Doesn't seem like any more work to me than shift-dragging into 3 stacks in cargo hold and avoids any security issues while you sit at CO (assuming low/null sec).
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-12-20 21:38:32 UTC
Let me guess: you didn't actually THINK before posting that, did you, OP?

Awesomesauce.
Elindreal
Planetary Interactors
#9 - 2011-12-22 20:56:12 UTC
i used to do as OP does and when the change went into effect i flipped out due to all the wasted effort of making breaking up my stacks into the perfect ratios that would add up to 10k m3

after my initial anger however i realized, this original method was ******** and the new system is superior.

just save your stack size into notepad and break the stacks as you import to planet.

it's better