Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Somethign I WOULD approve , with some deep thinking and careful planning. WOuld be to sizefy webs.

Make web effectiveness depend on the mass of the ship it is targeting. Also make different sized webs, small, medium and large ones, with different mass ratios.

That way a frigate web would have reduce effect on cruisers and VERY reduced effect on a battleship. A battleship web could be set for smaller current effect on another battleship, but would stop Very well and easily a small ship.

That would give battleships a good buff on small scale combat.

But all this would need a VERY VERY careful rebalance of several things and weapon systems to work. The rate of effect by mass coudl nto be linear otherwise we would end with frigates COMPLETELY halted by larger webs.

Something on the lines of Base Effectiveness * ( web mass factor/ target mass)* 1/target signature. Since mass of ships raise faster than signature the ffect would remain, but would make the curve closer to a log instead of an exponential.

But all that is too delicate to be made right in a single post.

This is actually something similar to what this thread originally suggested.

On the contrary.. would make battleship webs MUCH more powerful than frigate webs. Would make frigates reduce battleship speed LESS and would make battleships reduce frigates speed MORE.

But the hard part is figure if the stack nerf on webs shoudl be removed then. Because that is how frigates should deal with a battleship... being in larger numbers.

Webs are NOT what you should fear when you are in a frigate against a battleship. The main chance the battleship have ( except the vindicator , obviously, and the drone boats super warrior IIs) are heavy neuts.


A single web will NO WAY let a battleship track a frigate. 2 Webs give it a chance, but if the frigate is AB fit and the BS is MWD and scrabmled, even so will be HARD). Neuts are what kills frigates, because shut downs their own webs and prop mods.

This thread was not based on the argument that frigates need to be more powerful, it was based on the argument that the module of the web itself is unbalanced and should be readjusted. That being said your post is not very contrary. But still, rather than fitting a web, you can accomplish the same objective with a neut. Having a weaker, longer range web with higher fitting requirements, and especially in conjunction with a neut is a more balanced option for anti frig defense rather than just giving bses a bigger web.

I have a lot of experience in frigates, and I have killed several battleships with them you need webs to kill frigs. You need a web to hit frigates? Sure, but your bses web shouldn't have the same cpu requirements as the frigate web. Please stop with the iteron already, a pvp ship, regardless of type, versus a PVE ship does not an argument make. If what I suggest would really make it impossible for bses to hit frigs, then increase the tracking on them enough so that they can hit a frig that has been neuted to death, but stasis webifiers are a totally one-sided items, and should be made otherwise.

Nevermind how it is a terrible idea to solo roam in a battleship in many areas anyway, and while that is an inevitability that a Megathron would be defcapital.[/quote]

The merlins cost less than half an unfitted mega hull. The ONLY way even ONE dies is with a web (even then, maybe).

Webs are just fine.[/quote]

Neuts are more effective than webs in that case, and are likely to prevent the merlins from even firing.

Its exactly the same as every other mod on your ship in that reguard. Or do you think they should also require to be massively larger to fit on battleships?



The argument is going right over your head. Its an example of a much bigger, much slow and with far far less firepower being able to get under the guns of a battleship and managing to break its tank. It doesnt matter if its a pve BS or not, the mechanics are the same. A frigate has a far easier time doing it than an iteron.




So tell me how a battleship hits an AB frigate at 2000m with its turrets even when it is webbed?

Here's another question for you:

If webs are nerfed, why would ANYONE fly ANYTHING other than - garmur, succubus? Because they'd be actually immortal.



ed: @Baltec merlins are blaster fit - would need to be kestrels :)

fair enough.
try sig tanking then (halos,armour tank, afterburner),you get to laugh at webs