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Fleet booster questions.
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Lexi Aucie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-11-03 04:45:49 UTC
Hey all, im skilling for a fleet booster alt toon, and im somewhat confused. I understand the boosting alt needs to be in a booster slot in a fleet, but how does all this work.

If i have my main in squad leader position, and my alt in squad booster position, does that mean the main "squad leader" will start gaining the boosts off of the alt?

Thanks.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#2 - 2014-11-03 07:05:55 UTC
Okay so first off, yes you can give boosts by proxy.

In order to do so the pilot in the leadership slot must have the relevant leadership skills to support their subordinates (Leadership, Wing Command, Fleet command) and if he's in a higher up position he also must have leaders for all the levels under him to those subordinates as well.

So if you're in a fleet command position you need a wing commander and squad leader to pass any boost down.

The booster can be in any subordinate position under the leader that's proxying from them.

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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#3 - 2014-11-03 07:47:14 UTC
They way it works is from highest to lowest so:


fleet booster (up to 5 wings with fleet command V)
                                    |
wing booster (up to 5 squadrons with wing command V)
                                    |
squad booster (10 squad members with leadership V)
                                    |
Squad members


All the boosts trickle down and not up, your command skills determine how many wings & squads you can boost.

This also limits the maximum boostable fleet size to 5*5*10 =250 members per fleet though with those numbers it hardly matters.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#4 - 2014-11-03 08:42:04 UTC
It's 256

5 wings, 5 squads each, 250 at squad level, 5 wing commanders, 1 fleet commander.

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Lexi Aucie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-03 10:22:49 UTC
Ok so i sort of understand this.. i say sort of because what im still slightly confused about is how exactly it works.. the stuff you guys mentioned is a little bit techincal for me.

Does this mean then, that i need my booster pilot in the squad leader position for it to be giving out relevent boosts to my main character who would be in a squad member position?
Gosti Kahanid
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-11-03 10:49:57 UTC
Lets say you put you main into squadleader-position. This charakter will be sqadleader and squadbooster by default.
Now you want do give the booster role to someone else. To do this you first have to revoke the squadbooster-role from the charakter which is the booster at the moment (in this situation your main), and then you declare your booster-char as the squadbooster.
With this, everyone in the squad will gain the boost, inclusive the squadleader.

The easier way would be to make your boosting-alt the squadleader so he gains the boosting role by default
Lexi Aucie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-11-03 10:54:36 UTC
Gosti Kahanid wrote:
Lets say you put you main into squadleader-position. This charakter will be sqadleader and squadbooster by default.
Now you want do give the booster role to someone else. To do this you first have to revoke the squadbooster-role from the charakter which is the booster at the moment (in this situation your main), and then you declare your booster-char as the squadbooster.
With this, everyone in the squad will gain the boost, inclusive the squadleader.

The easier way would be to make your boosting-alt the squadleader so he gains the boosting role by default


That made it clear as day, thank you very much.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-11-03 13:56:13 UTC
Basically, the person in leadership position determance if the boosts are passed down.

So a Squad Commander in control of a 10 person squad NEEDS Leadership V trained.

If that is the case...then any person in the squad can provide the boosts, the S.C. will pass the boosts down.



If you have a Wing Commander in control of 3 squads, he needs wing command 3.
The squad commanders will need Leadership trained up relevant to the size of their squad (each level of leadership = 2 pilots in a squad).

If those are all true, anybody in that wing can be set to wing booster and boosts will be passed down to anybody in that wing.



Also, keep in mind.

1. With wing boosts, if there is NO squad commander for a squad, that squad will not receive the boosts from the wing booster.

2. If there is a squad commander but nobody in that squad, he can not be used as a squad booster.

(That's why even if you want to passive boost for yourself, you will need a 2nd person in fleet - A squad commander will receive his own boosts - boosts work on same level and down - F.C. gets fleet boosts / W.C. gets fleet boosts + wing boosts (if the same, highest is applied) / S.Q get wing, fleet & squad boosts (if similar boosts, highest is applied).

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-03 13:58:14 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Lexi Aucie wrote:
Ok so i sort of understand this.. i say sort of because what im still slightly confused about is how exactly it works.. the stuff you guys mentioned is a little bit techincal for me.

Does this mean then, that i need my booster pilot in the squad leader position for it to be giving out relevent boosts to my main character who would be in a squad member position?


That can work, and is the easiest way to do (as most of the booster alts have Leadership V anyway).


The other way:

Train leadership on your main to the level needed (Each level of leadership = 2 people under your command as squad member).

So with just you and your alt...Leadership 1 is enough.


Then your main can be squad commander (so you can squad warp yourself nad your alt from your main) while your alt as a squad member will be set squad booster.



So:

Squad commander MUST have the needed leadership skill to "support" the amount of people in a squad. No matter if he or anybody else is the booster.

As long as S.C. has the needed skills to pass down boosts, anybody can be that booster.


*Same applies for higher structures in the fleet - Wing Commander needs the Wing Command skill to support number of squads, then anybody can be the wing booster - Fleet Commander needs the Fleet Command skill to support number of wings, then anybody can be the fleet booster - So technically, someone with Fleet Command 5 (and thus Wing command 5 and Leadership 5) can be in Fleet Commander position but assign someone in Wing 1 - Squad 2 as the Fleet Booster and the boosts are still passed down the entire fleet.

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Major Trant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-11-03 15:54:00 UTC
Bear in mind that for boosts to pass down the booster and the people getting the boosts, plus all the intermediate leaders have to be in the same system and undocked.

If a squad leader is in a neighboring system or docked up, none of his squad will be getting the boosts. If your squad leader is your scout and is 2 jumps ahead, the squad will not get the boosts. If your squad leader is the blackbird pilot and gets killed and podded halfway through the fight, the squad will lose their boosts. If you put in a bait group first, put them in the same squad and send the squad leader and if necessary, the Wing and Fleet Commander in with them as well as the booster.
Lexi Aucie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-11-03 19:59:03 UTC
Thank you very much everyone, i finally understand how this works "i think", thanks for the time to reply.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#12 - 2014-11-03 22:35:59 UTC
You need leadership V for wing/fleet command and warfare link skills anyway so any booster alt has to have leadership V or it's the most useless way to spend ISK ever. P

Also since you still need leadership V for each member in fleet to get past gate in any 10/10 DED complex in null then anyone living in null and not reading leadership V is just being stupid.

You also need leadership V for fighters if you plan on ever using a carrier.

So leadership V might not be your top priority but it will be at some point.