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Advice on avoiding the Suicide gank

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Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#1 - 2014-11-03 00:48:27 UTC
Would appreciate some advice on how to avoid this from happening. cheers
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2014-11-03 00:50:38 UTC
Be at your keyboard, and don't autopilot.

And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#3 - 2014-11-03 00:57:48 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.


Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-11-03 00:59:51 UTC
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.


Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not.


That's what the first two are for.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#5 - 2014-11-03 01:00:57 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.


Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not.


That's what the first two are for.



I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2014-11-03 01:02:52 UTC
Don't be seen





☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Agatir Solenth
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-11-03 01:03:58 UTC
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.


Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not.


Then don't operate in the systems they camp/frequent. Set their (any ganking group) corp/alliance standings so you can see them in local.
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-11-03 01:05:47 UTC
Don't undock problem solved
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#9 - 2014-11-03 01:06:15 UTC
Hilti Enaka wrote:

I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.


I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week.

My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked.

I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#10 - 2014-11-03 01:13:18 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:

I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.


I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week.

My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked.

I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec.


Me too but my gank was a log on trap so, its got nothing to do with competence.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2014-11-03 01:15:35 UTC
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:

I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.


I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week.

My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked.

I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec.


Me too but my gank was a log on trap so, its got nothing to do with competence.


You got bumped... in a log on trap?

I still fail to see how this could not have been solved by double webbing.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#12 - 2014-11-03 01:18:31 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:

I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.


I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week.

My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked.

I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec.


Me too but my gank was a log on trap so, its got nothing to do with competence.


You got bumped... in a log on trap?

I still fail to see how this could not have been solved by double webbing.


Because webby got ganked as well.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#13 - 2014-11-03 01:19:06 UTC
Hilti Enaka wrote:

Because webby got ganked as well.


Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#14 - 2014-11-03 01:19:52 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:

Because webby got ganked as well.


Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now.


No really it got ganked.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#15 - 2014-11-03 01:22:21 UTC
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:

Because webby got ganked as well.


Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now.


No really it got ganked.


In a log on trap. Riiiight... Roll

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#16 - 2014-11-03 01:25:33 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hilti Enaka wrote:

Because webby got ganked as well.


Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now.


No really it got ganked.


In a log on trap. Riiiight... Roll


Its pretty easy to explain webby ship was alphaed, freighter was then locked and also aggroed to prevent safe log off mach arrived bumps it of alignment and there we go. its not rocket science.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2014-11-03 01:27:57 UTC
Hilti Enaka
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#18 - 2014-11-03 01:53:20 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html


Thanks Ralph Before anyone starts to ***** and moan at me because I have ganking tiers Eve has always been a fond game of mine and it is because of the dark side i am drawn to continnue to play, I have no emotional connection to any loss I incur. That being said I still want my stuff to be safe so I can play the main path of my game which is pvp-ing.

A few comments against the tips.

Tip 1 - Tank your Hauler/Industrial/Mining ship - i guess this is reinforced bulkheads in freighters and JFs? Not sure what happens when gankers bring more alpha but I can go with this,

Tip 2 - Add known 'bad guys' to your contacts & join an 'anti-ganking' chat channel - doesnt prevent alts from popping up or in my case from loggin on,

Tip 3 - Don't AFK mine (Autopilot) - never do, always used webby and 1 hour of my time moving things around

Tip 4 - Limit ship & cargo value to below 1b ISK - disagree, ganking freighters has become a tradition now and they are being popped just for the hell of it. Limiting cargo, double wrapping it or what ever else isn't preventing this.

Tip 5 - Choose travel through only the highest security status systems - Not sure you can avoid choke systems.

Tip 6 - Never autopilot - See tip 3.

Tip 7 - Never travel unscouted - See tip 2

Tip 8 - Use a web buddy for insta-align & warp - Freighter still has to warp and of course webby can still be popped.

Tip 10 - Use a Jump Freighter to haul w/ a cyno alt on standby - This is the only one I didnt have a response too and I feel that this could be my only way from now on.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#19 - 2014-11-03 02:13:04 UTC
Here's two you missed;

- Be less attractive of a target compared to the "other guy."
If you are flying in space and are the only target available... you ARE the "other guy" and have failed be less attractive of a target (because you are the only one).

- **** happens. You can follow all the tips/rules/guidelines/tricks you want... none of them guarantee your safety 100% of the time. Even gankers are not always 100% successful (and if believe they are, it means you have never tried ganking yourself).

How did you Veterans start?
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#20 - 2014-11-03 02:16:12 UTC
Just outsource hauling...it really isn't worth doing yourself as a solo player.
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