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Brain-in-a-box status

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Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#61 - 2014-11-02 06:54:20 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
CCP Habakuk wrote:
... a given solar system ...
No.

I don't know why it's wrong in-game, but maybe someone simply didn't know better and through the fact that the public gets this wrong easily, nobody cared about even noticing.


There is only one solar system in the whole universe.

There is no solar system in the EVE universe.

Sol is the name of our star.
Sun is the more commonly used name for this star.



They're star systems, not solar systems.


Can you fix this?

If you really want to get technical, they're Planetary Systems, not Star Systems, as every system in EVE (at least, every system that I've encountered) has at least one planet.

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Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#62 - 2014-11-02 10:42:36 UTC
The point has been made. I don't care what they do as long as they stop this madness.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#63 - 2014-11-02 11:21:59 UTC
Summer Isle wrote:

If you really want to get technical, they're Planetary Systems, not Star Systems, as every system in EVE (at least, every system that I've encountered) has at least one planet.

Since they are all binary systems also you could call them star systems as well.
Solar systems however is common usage, and since English is a living language meaning of words & phrases does change to reflect common usage. It's not Latin. So you can't say 'This doesn't mean x' with absolute certainty when dealing with common usage terms.

On BiaB however. Thanks for the update, glad to know it's still underway as that will be a huge shift for large fleet movements.
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#64 - 2014-11-02 12:45:54 UTC
what is this brain in a box even?

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WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
#65 - 2014-11-02 12:49:23 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
CCP Habakuk wrote:
... a given solar system ...
No.

I don't know why it's wrong in-game, but maybe someone simply didn't know better and through the fact that the public gets this wrong easily, nobody cared about even noticing.


There is only one solar system in the whole universe.

There is no solar system in the EVE universe.

Sol is the name of our star.
Sun is the more commonly used name for this star.

They're star systems, not solar systems.


Can you fix this?

there is nothing to fix. again you fail to provide a logical argument and you only look stupid when you say things that anyone who really knows will immediately identify as false.

you are one of the worst wannabe trolls I've ever had the misfortune to see.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#66 - 2014-11-02 12:49:39 UTC
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame wrote:
what is this brain in a box even?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrSYqiqvzc

Oh wait, you said brain, thought you said something else .

Twisted
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#67 - 2014-11-02 14:26:09 UTC
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
CCP Habakuk wrote:
... a given solar system ...
No.

I don't know why it's wrong in-game, but maybe someone simply didn't know better and through the fact that the public gets this wrong easily, nobody cared about even noticing.


There is only one solar system in the whole universe.

There is no solar system in the EVE universe.

Sol is the name of our star.
Sun is the more commonly used name for this star.

They're star systems, not solar systems.


Can you fix this?

there is nothing to fix. again you fail to provide a logical argument and you only look stupid when you say things that anyone who really knows will immediately identify as false.

you are one of the worst wannabe trolls I've ever had the misfortune to see.
LOL liafcipe9000
so mad. so silly.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#68 - 2014-11-02 14:32:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
So you can't say 'This doesn't mean x' with absolute certainty when dealing with common usage terms
I can say, because that's how it is. Look it up.
It being common usage doesn't change the fact that it's wrong.
Lots of people saying the same wrong thing doesn't make that thing right.

Like all the idiots who don't understand what "PvP" means and mistake it for "combat" only.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Vic Vorlon
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#69 - 2014-11-06 14:53:22 UTC
What's the estimate on how many more ships each node will be able to handle when BiaB is complete?
enterprisePSI
#70 - 2014-11-06 15:28:48 UTC
WTF is BIAB!:!?

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howling wind
Deliverance.
Arrival.
#71 - 2014-11-06 17:16:22 UTC  |  Edited by: howling wind
Riyria Twinpeaks
Perkone
Caldari State
#72 - 2014-11-06 18:13:43 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
I accept "systems" as well, because it's still *right*.

But the system of Sol is ... not actually in New Eden. I would accept it if they renamed every star to Sol, too. Then we have 7000+ solar systems in honour of the real one. Or just the one of Hek. That'd be neat. Has only three letters too!

Oh and yeah, I know Sol. My main machine at home has the same name. ;)


Take a look at your overview settings, the section "Celestials". You'll find that the setting to make the stars appear on your overview is actually called "Sun".
This indicates that in New Eden, "Sun" is a general term usable for all stars. :)
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#73 - 2014-11-07 17:23:15 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
While originally defined as our specific star, it is becoming more common in cosmology for the term "sun" to be used in reference to the specific star(s) of a given star system. Lawrence Krauss uses the term in such a way and he's all kinds of awesome.

The term "solar" meanwhile still generally references our own star system specifically. "Extrasolar" planets are planets outside our star system. "Solar System" almost always refers to our star system.

The expanded use of the word "sun" without an expanded use of the word "solar" doesn't make logical sense but that's English for you.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#74 - 2014-11-07 17:28:49 UTC
I am wondering if the free server resources could be used to turn the sphere based collision geometry into other shapes. Similar with warp-to areas and docking belts of stations.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#75 - 2014-11-07 17:35:52 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
I am wondering if the free server resources could be used to turn the sphere based collision geometry into other shapes. Similar with warp-to areas and docking belts of stations.



The collision geometry isn't sphere based. It's collection of spheres based.

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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#76 - 2014-11-07 21:15:02 UTC
EVE is in the future and we speak futuremerican here. Therefor you can not say that solar system and sun are incorrect. That is just the EVEmerican way. It is also why we refer to our space craft as spoons instead of spaceships, and carry our brains around in boxes.
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#77 - 2014-11-07 21:31:52 UTC
Took me a while to get the concept of "Brain in a Box", is it essentially the same as caching?

Basically you calculate all the attributes ONCE, then place those values and "bake" them so they only need to be calculated every time a skill cue is finished?

Or am I completely misunderstanding the concept?

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stoicfaux
#78 - 2014-11-07 21:57:38 UTC
Cyndrogen wrote:
Took me a while to get the concept of "Brain in a Box", is it essentially the same as caching?

Basically you calculate all the attributes ONCE, then place those values and "bake" them so they only need to be calculated every time a skill cue is finished?

Or am I completely misunderstanding the concept?

Completely. You need to rethink what a cue is...

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