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NPC CORP PLAYERS YO

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Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-11-02 03:11:45 UTC
Hiya,

Im trying to have a general discussion on top reasons players are in NPC corps. Why do you think? What can get them out? Why do they go back after leaving?

Keep it civil and on topic for fear of locking thanks.

My thoughts... WARDEC IMMPUNITY AND ONLY WARDEC EVASION ALONE
Ohemgeez MyNameWontFi
Space Heroes In Training
#2 - 2014-11-02 03:16:11 UTC
What?

well, taking you as an example, to troll and be a nuissance? Straight
Signy Bril
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-11-02 03:18:23 UTC
I am an industry alt.
Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-11-02 03:22:28 UTC
Ohemgeez MyNameWontFi wrote:
What?

well, taking you as an example, to troll and be a nuissance? Straight


I only stay in Scope scammin my fellow Scopies long enough to get my next application approved and scout targets/move in neutral r/r logi/begin locking future corpmates ship. Then i join new corp :-)
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-02 03:36:42 UTC
Npc alts being able to post "doesn't make sense."

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Anslo
Scope Works
#6 - 2014-11-02 03:56:03 UTC
Stop cancering up my mother corp. they're the coolest duders.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-11-02 03:56:26 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Npc alts being able to post "doesn't make sense."

Sure, but how do you suggest we distinguish an npc alt from an npc main? Unless you're suggesting CCP close an avenue of feedback from the portion of the playerbase that has an npc main?
Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-11-02 04:00:16 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Npc alts being able to post "doesn't make sense."

Sure, but how do you suggest we distinguish an npc alt from an npc main? Unless you're suggesting CCP close an avenue of feedback from the portion of the playerbase that has an npc main?



Now come on now, we all now know that CCPS MAIN PLAYERBASE THEY WANT/CAre about are NPC PLAYERS. New ones apsecially. They said so yo
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#9 - 2014-11-02 04:08:10 UTC
I had one of my alts ages ago in an npc corp. she was my hauler who would haul crap when i mined. But then i got into running an alliance and needed to move things to and from a pos... and well my alt being flagged someone people forgot and would shoot her. So i had her join my corp.

She was out of corp to avoid wars, that way i could still ship goods. but tbh it was not worth it to keep her out of corp in the long run

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Xavier Holtzman
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#10 - 2014-11-02 04:09:35 UTC
Darmok, his development arrested.

I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it. - Bill Frug

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-11-02 04:10:57 UTC
WHY ARE WE SHOUTING!?
gaijiin pok
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-11-02 04:20:44 UTC
Persifonne wrote:
Hiya,

Im trying to have a general discussion on top reasons players are in NPC corps. Why do you think? What can get them out? Why do they go back after leaving?

Keep it civil and on topic for fear of locking thanks.

My thoughts... WARDEC IMMPUNITY AND ONLY WARDEC EVASION ALONE



I fly with a lot of npc corp players in syndicate - they play their game not yours - no corp bullshit, no ceo who makes unreasonable demands - * I once had a ceo that demanded that the corp pick up and move 20 jumps away to caldari space for no apparent reason where none of us wanted to go

and if you think they are all risk adverse... come on out - they might just change your mind - they are so far from risk adverse you cant even see the definition from there Big smile

I live in lowsec and null so wardec's mean little to me but I do like being in corp - gives other people the ability to take umbrage to me via the corp whether I have shot them or not and its fun to be raged at whether I have done them wrong or not - my sec status goes from negative to positive depending on where I have been flying recently - in null wardecs mean nothing to them as its open season there so you cant use that as a reason they are in npc corps - they are in null to fight and do it quite well

Sure - there are some players who are so intimidated by wardecs that they stay in npc - I don't get those people but different strokes n all that - they enjoy their time mining *shudder*.... and mission running Shocked- but don't paint all npc corpies with the same brush.

and signing off with my name just because it irritates some people...Pirate

---> Pok
Tikitina
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-11-02 04:22:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tikitina
To be honest, who cares.

If you are upset that you can't wardec a specific character then you are wrong. You can't wardec a specific character by design since that is normally a result of a pathetic thing called grief-play.

Feel free to wardec a corp that you are in competition with, as you can now, but it you want to go after a corp because of a specific character, seek help while you still can. That's borderline E-stalking in my opinion.
Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-11-02 04:31:42 UTC
Tikitina wrote:
To be honest, who cares.

If you are upset that you can't wardec a specific character then you are wrong. You can't wardec a specific character by design since that is normally a result of a pathetic thing called grief-play.

Feel free to wardec a corp that you are in competition with, as you can now, but it you want to go after a corp because of a specific character, seek help while you still can. That's borderline E-stalking in my opinion.



Cant cuz blow 50mill deccing corp.. 23hrs later all members drop corp closed. Corp recreated with same name. All members back in.... fair? Intended? Ummm wtf??
gaijiin pok
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-11-02 04:39:10 UTC  |  Edited by: gaijiin pok
Persifonne wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
To be honest, who cares.

If you are upset that you can't wardec a specific character then you are wrong. You can't wardec a specific character by design since that is normally a result of a pathetic thing called grief-play.

Feel free to wardec a corp that you are in competition with, as you can now, but it you want to go after a corp because of a specific character, seek help while you still can. That's borderline E-stalking in my opinion.



Cant cuz blow 50mill deccing corp.. 23hrs later all members drop corp closed. Corp recreated with same name. All members back in.... fair? Intended? Ummm wtf??



they don't want to fight, so find someone who does - they are out there


because I am really hoping someone gets butthurt... again *see below* Big smile--->

Pok
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#16 - 2014-11-02 06:12:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Violet Hurst
OP seems a bit distracted. In their first post they single out wardecs as the only reason to be in an NPC corp. In their second post they list other reasons and in the third they acknowledge that wardecs in their current state are completely useless for facilitating non-consensual pewVpew.

I'd like to separate two different aspects here:

1. The difference between being in an NPC corp and in a (1 person-)player corp. I personally simply hadn't read up on the topic until today. I was under the impression that maintaining a player corp required ongoing payments. I still don't really know if a corp HQ has to be rented, but am about to find out. If it does, however, this smells like being negatively conditioned to log on to me, which is pretty much the only concept of skinnerboxing i despise.

2. The (continual) cooperation with other players. As has been pointed out, being in the same player corp/alliance might make it easier, but is by no means a requirement.
Banding with others for a short time to get a job done is fine and dandy to most. Being associated with groups however might not be. I see the main reason for this in RL. We were raised and conditioned to consider individuality a virtue. Perceived individuality is an important benefactor of capitalist economy, after all you can only be perceived as an individual by having things that others don't. And the most simple type of things in this regard are physical objects. Being strongly individualistic however makes it undesirable to trade an "I" for a "we", thus lessening the desire to join groups, vote for political parties or engage in relationships.


Tikitina wrote:

If you are upset that you can't wardec a specific character then you are wrong. You can't wardec a specific character by design since that is normally a result of a pathetic thing called grief-play.

When i joined eve the whole "your actions have consequences"-marketing had me believe something like this would actually be possible. The ability to get back at somebody for smacktalking, shiptoasting, ninja salvaging, mining-, ratting-, market competition or anything else by more tangible means was indeed a selling point for me.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-11-02 06:29:08 UTC
Tikitina wrote:
To be honest, who cares.

If you are upset that you can't wardec a specific character then you are wrong. You can't wardec a specific character by design since that is normally a result of a pathetic thing called grief-play.

Feel free to wardec a corp that you are in competition with, as you can now, but it you want to go after a corp because of a specific character, seek help while you still can. That's borderline E-stalking in my opinion.


An opinion without a sound factual basis is usually called a delusion.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#18 - 2014-11-02 06:32:36 UTC
Signy Bril wrote:
I am an industry alt.

Considering the difference in cost and time between using an NPC station and a POS, I can't imagine you do much industry...

 Talk is cheap, but Void S and Quake L are cheaper.

Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#19 - 2014-11-02 06:50:02 UTC
OP has been relentlessly shiptoasting in GD for a couple of days now.

I'd suggest reporting and moving on. 0/10, nothing to see here.

"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."

Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-11-02 09:17:04 UTC
Persifonne wrote:
Tikitina wrote:
To be honest, who cares.

If you are upset that you can't wardec a specific character then you are wrong. You can't wardec a specific character by design since that is normally a result of a pathetic thing called grief-play.

Feel free to wardec a corp that you are in competition with, as you can now, but it you want to go after a corp because of a specific character, seek help while you still can. That's borderline E-stalking in my opinion.



Cant cuz blow 50mill deccing corp.. 23hrs later all members drop corp closed. Corp recreated with same name. All members back in.... fair? Intended? Ummm wtf??


ITT: NPC alts complaining how Eve is not fair.
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