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Quick Gallente QQ thread.

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kyrieee
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-12-11 13:42:11 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Oh, oh, oh - since we're complaining about old nerfs: they nerfed the Helios to hell and back.

:(

-Liang


Damn Helios
It's not enough that it's by far the worst CovOps, they had to go change the model as well.
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-12-11 14:12:33 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Incursus has the lowest base CPU of all fighting frigs?

Can't fit proper T2 equip w/o Electronics V

Why Hyperion has the lowest PG of all Tier3 BS's?

Can't fit proper dual rep, dual booster fit with Neutrons II even if ALL5 char. Both Abaddon and Maelstorm can but don't have bonuses... :facepalm:

Why Myrm has 75 Mbs bandwith?

Surely 3 heavy drones is what newbies dream of when train for Gall cruisers instead of Drake((


Try flying Amarr ships and feel the pain fitting them then QQ here.

Since new patch gallente aren't the worst race (if they ever were).
Right now it is Minmatar -> Gallente --> Amarr.

Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#23 - 2011-12-11 18:00:25 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Fly a Keres if looks are more important to you than function.


Why choose when you used to have both?

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#24 - 2011-12-11 19:25:00 UTC
Fix My Lasers wrote:
Since new patch gallente aren't the worst race (if they ever were).
Right now it is Minmatar -> Gallente --> Amarr.


You were already doing something wrong before the expansion, because after expansion Gallente are all you want but balanced. Yes they have some more pg free (not cap recharge) some more tracking and....???

Funny, the most dangerous new Tiers 3 BC is not the gallente one but well the Oracle.

You're still doing it wrong.
Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-12-13 16:09:49 UTC
Fix My Lasers wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Incursus has the lowest base CPU of all fighting frigs?

Can't fit proper T2 equip w/o Electronics V

Why Hyperion has the lowest PG of all Tier3 BS's?

Can't fit proper dual rep, dual booster fit with Neutrons II even if ALL5 char. Both Abaddon and Maelstorm can but don't have bonuses... :facepalm:

Why Myrm has 75 Mbs bandwith?

Surely 3 heavy drones is what newbies dream of when train for Gall cruisers instead of Drake((


Try flying Amarr ships and feel the pain fitting them then QQ here.

Since new patch gallente aren't the worst race (if they ever were).
Right now it is Minmatar -> Gallente --> Amarr.



I fit my Punisher with Autocannons and 400mm Plates to punish those pesky Rifters. ^_^

Also what is so difficult fitting a blob Harbinger? Everything sticks pretty well so I don't see a point in your post.
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-12-13 17:39:25 UTC
back in the days Gallente were overpowering.

Myrmidon could do 3 km/s, 5 heavy drones tracked like mediums, capacitor vampire NOSF sucked enemies dry, dual rep tank, dual 90% webs. Drakes were laughable, easy pick on noobs with no PvP skills, Myrmidons raped them here and there.

Guess this is why all that goodness got nerfed. Also back in this times, gallente sensor damps were number one choice for PvP. Very effective.

Guess it's the Caldari whine that got us where we are now. Whining on forums, delightful pastime.

Back to the lore - gallente had speed and tanks, brutally charged weapons, but were short of CPU by design, their ships weren't meant for electronics. Meanwhile Caldari were meant to use high tech equipment which uses way less grid, but is CPU intensive, including e-war, scanners, countermeasures. All of it, of course, was nerfed to oblivion and now we only have classic tank and gank.

More armor - more damage. things such as defenders, damps, tracking disruptors smart bombs are oddities and barely have any use in HAC/BS fleets.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-12-13 17:45:25 UTC
^ Yeah that lore is cool but In my honest opinion it is a gamedesign flaw that I can't fit a T1 Frigate at its best without training a skill that I don't need ASAP for 4 days OR buying a +4% CPU implant. Later in the game when all of these problems will be irrelevant I'll just sit in an Ishkur or Taranis and forget about Incursus :(
Daedalus Arcova
The Scope
#28 - 2011-12-13 17:53:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Daedalus Arcova
Here's another little Gallente gripe... Why the hell do sleek Gallente ships have such massive signatures (the biggest of all the races), while raggedy-ass Minmatar ships with bits sticking out at all angles have the smallest sigs?

Don't believe me? An armour-tanked Brutix has a bigger sig radius than a shield tanked and rigged Hurricane. That's just not right.

Winmatar strikes again.
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-12-13 21:44:52 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
^ Yeah that lore is cool but In my honest opinion it is a gamedesign flaw that I can't fit a T1 Frigate at its best without training a skill that I don't need ASAP for 4 days OR buying a +4% CPU implant. Later in the game when all of these problems will be irrelevant I'll just sit in an Ishkur or Taranis and forget about Incursus :(


remember that in classic client gallente used to come in Q *** r shape and colors.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#30 - 2011-12-13 22:03:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
Opertone wrote:
back in the days Gallente were overpowering.

Myrmidon could do 3 km/s, 5 heavy drones tracked like mediums, capacitor vampire NOSF sucked enemies dry, dual rep tank, dual 90% webs. Drakes were laughable, easy pick on noobs with no PvP skills, Myrmidons raped them here and there.

Guess this is why all that goodness got nerfed. Also back in this times, gallente sensor damps were number one choice for PvP. Very effective.


LOL - even back then the Drake was dramatically superior to the Myrm. You seem to have forgotten that the Drake had the shield recharge of a cruiser and could easily line out a 2-3k DPS passive tank with virtually no invested skills. Furthermore, it had all the advantages that it does today.

The Drake had a better Tank/Gank ratio then, it does now, and it will continue to do so. It has always been a better brawler and the only way a Myrmidon ever escaped me (even back then) was if it nos'ed me out and ran like a little *****. Except that back then everyone was all "herp derp, a Drake I'll go kill it because its a noob!" and hundreds of kills just literally fell into my lap.

-Liang

Ed: And lets just be clear - I trained the Myrm first, and then went to the Drake because it was just that much better. Especially under sentry fire.

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#31 - 2011-12-13 22:30:24 UTC  |  Edited by: The Djego
Opertone wrote:
back in the days Gallente were overpowering.

Myrmidon could do 3 km/s, 5 heavy drones tracked like mediums, capacitor vampire NOSF sucked enemies dry, dual rep tank, dual 90% webs. Drakes were laughable, easy pick on noobs with no PvP skills, Myrmidons raped them here and there.


A Myrmidon that could do 3km/s was nanoed and had not much of a tank. Also nobody did nano myrmidons because the nano domi and later the Ishtar did the same thing miles better and rigging a nano setup came at a 100M+ price tag for every hull what made it not attractive for BCs outside specialized fittings to trick single nano HACs into fights with you. This was mostly done with canes or harbingers, because heavy drones never where a relay able weapon against nano HACs, similar as missiles because they where to slow to apply the damage.

I have seen nobody useing dual 90% webs on the myrmidon, because anything you could catch you could hold with a single web.

CCP changed the sig resolution on medium drones, the large ones didn't get changed at all.

Drakes in this days where nearly all purger fitted and just had to kill 2 heavy of the myrmidon to be able to permatank it(it had no spares) assuming it was maxed out on skills and fully gank fitted(what wasn't the case most of the time since you would have seen this people rather in a mega or domi than in a myrmidon). A lot of people actually complained that it was next to impossible to kill a drake solo in another BC.

Opertone wrote:
Also back in this times, gallente sensor damps were number one choice for PvP. Very effective.


Funny do you still remember what kind of EW got used on even more hulls before people switched to damps, after a specific nerf?

Improve discharge rigging: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246166&find=unread

Renge Ukyo
Doomheim
#32 - 2011-12-14 12:54:53 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
^ Wow didn't know the whole dramma of it. Now it's even more unfair.



Flying Gallente isn't fair.

Fly F*cked, Fly Gallente! Cry
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#33 - 2011-12-14 13:48:53 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Fly a Keres if looks are more important to you than function.


Why choose when you used to have both?

-Liang

Because no one here has a time machine....

... Plenty of whine machines though!

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Crazy KSK1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-12-14 15:05:58 UTC
I heard that ccp some time back changed the armor resist hole from kinetic to explosive is that true?
Renge Ukyo
Doomheim
#35 - 2011-12-15 11:15:26 UTC
Crazy KSK1 wrote:
I heard that ccp some time back changed the armor resist hole from kinetic to explosive is that true?



Nominally yes, that is true. which saddens me greatly since the hole is 10% on gallente hulls -_-
Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2011-12-20 13:07:18 UTC
So no one feels cheated that Hyperion has 2nd lowest CPU and LOWEST PG of all tier3 Battleships? Seriously even Rokh has more!
vorneus
Hub2
#37 - 2011-12-20 13:25:41 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
So no one feels cheated that Hyperion has 2nd lowest CPU and LOWEST PG of all tier3 Battleships? Seriously even Rokh has more!


That does seem rather unfair, given armor mods (particularly large reppers - active tank bonus much?) take more PG than shield ones, but I can sort of understand because the Rohk is designed for rails rather than blasters, which take more PG.

Still, that is a little crummy :(

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.

Renge Ukyo
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-01-12 00:31:45 UTC
I just want to strangle CCP on a daily basis. The Gallente are such a **** of a race to fly.
Amana Tsasa
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-01-12 00:45:32 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
So no one feels cheated that Hyperion has 2nd lowest CPU and LOWEST PG of all tier3 Battleships? Seriously even Rokh has more!


I hate to say it like this, but its foolish to feel cheated, as is the case with everything else 'someone's gotta be the runt' if it wasn't the Hyperion, it would be a different tier 3 BS that would be 2nd lowest.
Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-01-22 02:22:18 UTC
Daedalus Arcova wrote:
Here's another little Gallente gripe... Why the hell do sleek Gallente ships have such massive signatures (the biggest of all the races), while raggedy-ass Minmatar ships with bits sticking out at all angles have the smallest sigs?

Don't believe me? An armour-tanked Brutix has a bigger sig radius than a shield tanked and rigged Hurricane. That's just not right.

Winmatar strikes again.


Yeah thats ridiculous since gallente is the most MWD reliant race. 40m3 difference now means 200m3 difference when the MWD turns in. Wish they'd change that too.
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