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Tempest/Mealstrom ok for lvl4's?
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Zilzin Intak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-10-28 23:38:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Zilzin Intak
Like title says, Im planning to go incursions relatively soon, and I wanna go projectile turrets, going for Machariel.

I already have a Dominix with decent drone skills. Since this is pretty useless for incursions I'm going to have to train gun skills. Since I wanna go for Machariel most logical choice would be to use Tempest as starter boat for incursions, I wanna get used to piloting a BS with guns and run lvl4's in it as well.

Is this viable? Any good ship fittings suggestions?
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#2 - 2014-10-28 23:54:48 UTC
Maelstrom have more dps more alpha and tank bonus i would go for it to do some missions.

For incursuons i must say i didnt see tempest or mael in a long time,but on rare occasion i do see tempest fleet issue.

Mach is acceptable in any fleet more or less but those two ships are not.

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-10-30 15:30:26 UTC
the tempest is pretty terrible, no matter how you spin it. the maelstrom is a good mission ship considering the price, but not as good as the domi or other similar options. the problem is that the mael lacks either the range (autocannons) or the dps (artillery) to compete with the alternatives.

in incursions, neither ships will be welcome. if you find a group, then good for you but i would not count on it.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#4 - 2014-10-30 15:47:18 UTC
Maelstrom is completely viable for incursions, just upgrade to the Machariel once you can afford it (they tend to get grumpy if you never upgrade).

I used to have a Maelstrom for missioning and it worked really well even back when my skills weren't *that* good. Never really had any issues with any missions using AC, but some might be easier with arty. That is a preference though so no matter people tell you choose what you want yourself Blink
Zilzin Intak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-11-01 01:16:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Zilzin Intak
Thanks for the responses.

Yeah I noticed by now that Maelstrom/Tempest aren't that good anyways. A megathron for example is already ok in incursions while the tempest/maelstrom are not really..


I thought about going for TFI instead (Tempest Fleet Issue), since that is about half price of Machariel. But even that one isn't that good..
Anyways, I managed to scrape enough money together, I will probably go straight for machariel. :)
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-11-03 12:19:09 UTC
Well you can use maelstrom or pest, but the domi is much better with proper skilled sentry drones when it comes to L4 missions and if you got good drone skills you want to get a fleet phoon instead for pve, because it does more dps then a tempest(especially without BS 5), is so much faster than a meal storm with the mwd, is more flexible and utilizes high drone skills very good.

Btw I am not really sure who told you that the Dominix is useless in Incursions. In OIC(armor Incursions) the Vexor Navy Issue with sentry drones is our entry level hull for players with the gallente skill set and lots of people flown her first Incursions site in her refitted L4 domi in the channel.

I and other FCs also use Ishtars on spare chars as utility hull of choice on and off grid(like a gun assisted Legion, that can also scout with over 5 AU/s, hack and ore drop with 1500m/s and provide extra tracking links) and we are well aware what we can do with drone based solutions, since nearly every hull uses sentry drones in combination with a dedicated sentry drone bunny. A proper flown domi is very effective at nearly every range and against every kind of target(even shooting frigs with sentry drones at point blank is not a problem with proper webbing and painting) and the drone skills are very useful for progression into our Hypes, navy Megas or Vindicators as well, since they are also all flown with sentry drones and 1-2 DDAs, mixing high dps with blasters at point blank with a extra 300-400 dps up to 57km with drones as instant damage.