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Combat Recons - how do u fit urs
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-10-28 13:00:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Bastion Arzi
not getting tackled is not going to help against say a couple of missile bs or too many long range guns to disrupt for example.

with (edit) virtually no tank and being a recon ur just gonna get primaried and alphad from range.

not saying that it couldnt possibly work but its situational.

is there no way to get a dc on there?

if i have a spare curse at some point i might try it tho. mega heavy neuting at 80km is ridiuclous.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-10-28 13:53:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Bastion Arzi wrote:
not getting tackled is not going to help against say a couple of missile bs or too many long range guns to disrupt for example.

with (edit) virtually no tank and being a recon ur just gonna get primaried and alphad from range.

not saying that it couldnt possibly work but its situational.

is there no way to get a dc on there?

if i have a spare curse at some point i might try it tho. mega heavy neuting at 80km is ridiuclous.


The Heavy neut curse is pretty neiche tbh, most targets will be able to keep at least their tank going inbetween the longer cycle times negating one of the curses major effects. Also at 80k the only thing you'll be able to do is run the one neut... the TD's will be in deep falloff so not worth much and even your drones will be out of range.
Also with 200mil worth of mods you could buy a second curse...

Stick with medium neuts. Youll be able to lock down more ships and keep them neuted. You can apply your drones to tackle and actually recieve reps if you need it.
Also if you enguage say... more than 2 ships... or on a gate.... you know those really common occuranceses... you'll still be of some use Roll

No Worries
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-10-29 14:11:07 UTC
sound advice i think.

ill have recons level 4 when i get home from work today. Time for some poor ******* to feel the power!
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Gildinous Vangaurd
The Initiative.
#24 - 2014-10-29 20:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Cephelange du'Krevviq
This is a fit that's worked pretty well for me.

[Lachesis, Lawhatsis]
Damage Control II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Scrambler II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Medium YF-12a Smartbomb
Medium YF-12a Smartbomb

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x3
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x600
Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x600
Nanite Repair Paste x150

Here is a link that shows stats for my character. Obviously, capacitor lasts longer without the MWD or smartbombs running; smartbombs, as you might imagine, are for clearing drones off.

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"
Danjun Zahid
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-10-29 20:35:33 UTC
tbh if your going to use something like a curse, id rather use a legion. 100k ehp+ tank and 6 med neuts does the juob and can take massive hits. only problem is you dont get the super duper range bonus but chuck a mwd ad just sit on top of them. always an option
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-10-29 21:28:22 UTC
that just seems wrong to me .

i suppose now i know why ive seen people posting that t3's should not fulfil roles better than thier t2 counterparts

the legion doesnt get a bonus to drain amount tho does it? and no bonus to disruption either.

unless the subsystems give it that? admittedly i have limited knowledge about such things
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-10-29 23:56:10 UTC
The problem with combat recons is that the targets you want to fight won't fight you.

Meanwhile, SURPRISE RAPIER takes kiters by surprise.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-10-30 09:25:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Squatdog wrote:
The problem with combat recons is that the targets you want to fight won't fight you.

Meanwhile, SURPRISE RAPIER takes kiters by surprise.



Why are you giving them the choice? Blink

Danjun Zahid wrote:
tbh if your going to use something like a curse, id rather use a legion. 100k ehp+ tank and 6 med neuts does the juob and can take massive hits. only problem is you dont get the super duper range bonus but chuck a mwd ad just sit on top of them. always an option


Curses have double the neut amount, 4 times the range, can be used in a shield fleet, are faster, and dont cost as much...

Neut legions have their place, its just not the same as the curse...

No Worries
Ong
Lumberjack Commandos
#29 - 2014-10-30 11:26:38 UTC
Bastion Arzi wrote:
that just seems wrong to me .

the legion doesnt get a bonus to drain amount tho does it? and no bonus to disruption either.

unless the subsystems give it that? admittedly i have limited knowledge about such things


Yeah it does, 10% neut amount per lvl, this is the reason why you would never fly a pilgrim (in its current state) over a legion:


[Legion, Neut legion]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Ship Scanner II
Warp Disruptor II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II

Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Electronics - Energy Parasitic Complex
Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-10-31 21:19:00 UTC
taking squat dogs comment on board i did a quick search and found a rapier fit.

how does this look for solo work?

[Rapier, solo]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

needs a 2% pg hardwire (with a 3% one u can fit a t2 LSE)

shamelessly stolen from bc no less.

i guess the tactic is to pick ur targets, pop out of cloak, point, dual web, blap, cloak, warp
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