EVE General Discussion

This change might (and that's a slim "might," in my opinion) increase new player subscriptions by significant numbers, but it would dilute the playerbase in terms of quality. Those that would leave due to AWOXing will still leave due to ganking/griefing/wardecs, for the most part.

CCP, please reconsider this proposed change. There is very little to be gained from it and more to be lost, in my opinion.

"Okay, so what follows is entirely my personal opinion.

It's not a case of not "catering to the tearfilled entitled", it's a case of us staying true to the core of what EVE was built on.

Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.

Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.

While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.

The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.

True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.

The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.

EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.

EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.

EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.

Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.

EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.

Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.

That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.

Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience."

Because you're promoting an elaborate scheme to increase ore prices, comparing apples to oranges (a procurer is not a retriever) alleging a priority targeting for newbies and ignoring the parsimonious theory.

They do it because it is the least effort for the most return, the same min/maxing idea everyone falls into.

Then you should read their site more closely before besmirching their good name in a public forum. A gentleman would apologise.

At this time I think it is appropriate to quote CCP Falcon's comments from another thread that while was in the context of ganking, still holds true to this conversation. I have added emphasis where appropriate.

Key here is this...when discussing nerfing awoxing or requests to close wardec dodging exploits, is CCP and the CSM actually living by Falcon's words, or were these words just so much bullsh1t?

Actions speak louder than words. We are watching.

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Can you name one game that does what you say EVE should do and is successful/alive?

"Observed behavior" is as unreliable as eye witness testimony (I once spent time assigned to a Conviction Integrity Unit).
This is why I don't mention behavior i observed (most of the time) but the actual mechanics of the game and things that can be measured and proved. This is the disconnect here, as you are relying on biased, faulty memory and faith.

i'm sorry if Evidence based thinking annoys you. It generally has that affect on emotional thinkers. But your flawed way of thinking is not my fault.

Don't have to as the change doesn't affect me.

if people bothered to do basic recruitment checks, then nobody would be able to abuse anything.

it's just ccp legislating for stupid once again.

3rd- This change will not amke the entire community PvE players andy anyone with at least one braincell can realise this.

this isnt about that, lets not try and make that the case