Wormholes

Cant believe this hasnt been posted about yet.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/invention-updates/

first thing to note its a balance on materials to make them not the subs themselves.

You'll be able to pick what sub you invent now. which will lower costs.

But the materials to make them have been balanced so they are more evenly used than right now. there is probably stockpiles of the really low end sitting around so this might take a while for that to go.

The big change is Adding 1 Neurovisual Output Analyzer to Electronic, Engineering and Propulsion subsystems.

These will now cost similar to weapon and armour subs.

go have a read let me know what you all think

I'll be honest i'm not a market guru but potentially the crap salvage will probably go up but it will be veryslow since there is probably loads of it sitting around, but its alot more evenly balanced than it was so thats a nice start.

D3 destroyers will potentially also help up demand I might ask mynnna to take a look as he is way way better at market stuff than me

now (Hull + 5 subs):
600 Carbon-86 Epoxy Resin
37 Melted Nanoribbons
251 C3-FTM Acid

after Phoebe:
1,199 Carbon-86 Epoxy Resin = ~100% increase
44 Melted Nanoribbons = ~19% increase
620 C3-FTM Acid = ~250% increase

So carbon-86 and C3-FTM Acid demand could double and prices of the electronic, engineering, propulsion subsystems will increase by factor of 4-5. This is ofc only if T3 hulls stay at the same popularity, which may change given this drastic price increase to fly one.

I wonder how long it takes for the normal PvE player to realize that flying a Tengu after Phoebe, will be roughly twice as expansive :p


PS: If you think the invention changes will compensate, you need to realize that the invention cost's made only 5-15% of the total hull/subsystem BOM, so while invention cost decrease after Phoebe its nearly irrelevant to the final BOM.

Yeah, i spend my liquid isk already, but if i had some spare i would completely buy out the stock of those changed subs.
Not only will the cost go up 4 times, but who knows what happens with carbon-86, which is already hard to get. I suspect carbon alone will increase by 50% and therefore increase all subsystems by 25% on top of the changed new BOM.

The same goes for ACID which is only needed in hulls, but at a 250% increase for the BOM i expect someone to buy out all the current stock in a couple of hours.

And someone just mass bought half the nanoribbons market. And all cheap t3 subsystems have been bought and relisted at 80 million a pop.

lol, inb4 massive nerf announcement, T3s worthless :P

I don't mind that this will make T3s more expensive to buy, bceause currently you can fit a T3 cruiser for cheaper than some T2 ships if you go with a T2 fit, this change will make them more around twice the price, however most T3s in use, use a large number of faction and complex modules, ramping their cost up already. I estimate that these changes will take the cost of most of my fleet T3s up to around 1 billion isk, i can fully fit out some pirate BS for the same cost, with faction mods.

CCP i think you need to dial it back a bit.

T3's use faction mods in K-space because of the SP loss on death, so it makes sense to spend some cash to help reduce the likelihood of death.

In Wspace we go all out on pimping our ships for one simple reason. If your ship dies your out the fight unless you are super lucky and have a connection thats reasonable close to your med clone. so we need to make our ships preform to the limit in every fight to both survive and to dish the pain before they go down.

Hell we have even been looking into putting mods reserved for a bhaalgorn onto a geddon as it gives you similar stats (there is a difference but it improves the geddon to the point (imo) its worth it) but with neut range over amount (its better in sub cap fights than a bhaal)

Will the new build requirements effect existing T3 blueprints or just ones created after Phoebe release?

And then there are those of us that literally bought many of the **** subsystems up ages ago when builders were selling them below build costs to store for the inevitable T3 re balance (Wasn't expecting them to become more valuable in these changes but **** yeah will take it anyway).