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LOVE IT/HATE IT/OPINION AFK.... AFK CLOAKING TO BE REMOVED!!!!!!!!!

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R0mparkin
Th3 Illuminati
#41 - 2014-10-30 14:30:50 UTC
negative. learn to eve
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#42 - 2014-10-30 15:46:54 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
If you want to kill me come fight me, not sit and wait until you can kill me without consequences.


HONORABRU 1V1.

COME FIGHT ME NOW, YOUNG RONIN.

DO NOT DEVISE "STRATEGY" FOR SUCH IS DISHONORABRU.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#43 - 2014-10-30 15:52:13 UTC
OP is a rabble rouser. Move along people.



Read the minutes for yourselves and youll see what they really said.. not what OP cherrypicked for threadnaught purposes.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Persifonne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-10-30 15:54:40 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
OP is a rabble rouser. Move along people.



Read the minutes for yourselves and youll see what they really said.. not what OP cherrypicked for threadnaught purposes.


Reported for VERBAL ATTAK SLANDER!!!

SEE YOU IN 14DAYS yo
Gaan Cathal
Angry Mustellid
#45 - 2014-10-30 16:00:14 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Game design 101. Everything needs a counter. The moment some tactic or mechanic can not be countered, you've broken something.

This has nothing to do with 'get a fleet together and protect yourselves' or 'if 1 cloaker can shut down your system you don't deserve to be there'. Both of those points hold truth in a game like EVE.

But the fact of the matter is that a cloaker can not be engaged until the cloaker himself decides to engage. In other words, a cloaked ship can not be countered in any way. That's bad game design at its core and does need to be fixed in some way.


A cloaked ship also can't impose any ingame action on another ship. The closest they get to having a direct effect while cloaked is reporting of enemy fleet compositions/locations etc. Which is half the point of having a cloak at all.

As soon as a Cloaker is capable of actually doing anything, he is engageable.
Ten Digits
Survival Instincts
#46 - 2014-10-30 16:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ten Digits
afk cloaking should be removed. or be able probe afks, scan or something.

better yet

no local
Josef Djugashvilis
#47 - 2014-10-30 16:04:44 UTC
[quote=Ten Digits]afk cloaking should be removed. or be able probe afks, scan or something.[/quote

I accept that Eve Online players like to think they are a bit 'smarter' then those who play WoW etc, so tell me good sir, how do you know if a person in a cloaked ship is, in fact afk?

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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2014-10-30 16:06:05 UTC
Let me get this strait.

AFK cloaking is bad because null-bears cant leave their pos to do their pve stuffs in null.....priceless.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#49 - 2014-10-30 16:06:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Rumor Mongering in my GD?

Who'da thunk it?

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
#50 - 2014-10-30 16:10:11 UTC
You do realize that many games like WoW do have very hardcore elite communities as well right? It may be a very different game, and very easy to get into, but it still has its difficult gameplay. Granted yes it was and always will be designed around the casual player and accessibility as well. Eve should never go that way, so I agree in order to prevent that from happening carebears that hate cloaky ships should not get their wish just because they don't like it.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2014-10-30 16:10:24 UTC
stop posting. seriously.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#52 - 2014-10-30 16:12:59 UTC
A removal of local and the ability of all ships to dial in a system to system warp would turn the game into a cauldron of PVP and covert ops.


And to say it'll kill the game is an admission that the game is indeed all about min/max farming and all PVP is not "playing the game" but merely preventing the playing of the game.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#53 - 2014-10-30 16:26:44 UTC
Pure bluster. I would love to know how they think they can remove laying in wait for an opportune moment to strike as a concept.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#54 - 2014-10-30 16:31:15 UTC
To paraphrase one dev (because I CBA to find the exact quote): "Show me someone who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I'll show you someone who has no business playing EvE."

The minutes say nothing about removing/nerfing/changing AFK cloaking, only looking at the interaction of cloaks and covert cynos.

I guess you could say, "Ze minutes, zey show nothing"....

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flaming phantom
Unlimited LTD
#55 - 2014-10-30 16:33:20 UTC
Waahhhh! Mommy I can't carebear in peace! Go beat them up with the nerf bat!



How about no. As others have said, a cloaker can't do anything.

All great men have mustaches
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#56 - 2014-10-30 16:34:21 UTC
Quote:
32. Rumor mongering is prohibited.

Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.

Please use the CSM9 minutes thread to provide feedback. Thanks.

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

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