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#spacerich o.O -810 billion worth of isk dumped on market

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-10-24 03:11:25 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
That's a lot of tax paid.



It's allways funny how people can see that in a game yet when in reall life they forget to see how much more tax a rich man pays compared to a poor guy and as such how much more his contribution is to the sociall security.Unless you're american , then hell yeah **** the rich as there is no social securityBlink .


It's easier to relate to being spacerich, virtually everyone here is a millionaire at the very least.

As for social security, if that thing works properly in your country, consider yourself fortunate.


A millionaire in EVE isn't actually space rich though.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#22 - 2014-10-24 06:17:06 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
As for social security, if that thing works properly in your country, consider yourself fortunate.
It doesn't work properly anywhere.The question is do you want the people who don't need it to leech it too or do you want those who need it to lack it.I myself rather go for the first one even if it costs me more money.

Every system has inefficiencies.

An internal combustion engine that is 20% efficient will still get you to work in the morning, even though it wastes 80% of the energy you put into it on other things.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#23 - 2014-10-24 08:08:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
flakeys wrote:
It doesn't work properly anywhere.The question is do you want the people who don't need it to leech it too or do you want those who need it to lack it.I myself rather go for the first one even if it costs me more money.

Maybe i'm just too demanding , maybe i'm just like my father too bold Blink .


Sure, I'm all for helping those in need, but how do you define who needs it? That's the part that's not working properly most of the time.

mynnna wrote:
A millionaire in EVE isn't actually space rich though.


True, however the psychological effect of the magnitude of the numbers used in EvE desensitises you to the actual value of your space cash. If you can make 50m for an hour of the time, you subconsciously class yourself as rich, regardless of your actual situation, i.e. people complaining about PLEX prices in GD. People are conditioned to think that a million is a lot, and when you get handed multiples of that for little effort, it warps your sense of reality.
flakeys
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-10-24 11:51:08 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
It doesn't work properly anywhere.The question is do you want the people who don't need it to leech it too or do you want those who need it to lack it.I myself rather go for the first one even if it costs me more money.

Maybe i'm just too demanding , maybe i'm just like my father too bold Blink .


Sure, I'm all for helping those in need, but how do you define who needs it? That's the part that's not working properly most of the time.




Wich would be the part where i said people are able to leech from it .It's either that or nothing at all and as said before then i choose the first.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#25 - 2014-10-24 13:30:52 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Wich would be the part where i said people are able to leech from it .It's either that or nothing at all and as said before then i choose the first.


This would be all good and well if everybody that needed help got it. In reality that's not the case, as there's people bleeding the system dry on every level from the top down. The result is that some people that actually need assistance are left to fend for themselves, because there simply aren't enough resources left for them.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-10-24 14:51:23 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Wich would be the part where i said people are able to leech from it .It's either that or nothing at all and as said before then i choose the first.


This would be all good and well if everybody that needed help got it. In reality that's not the case, as there's people bleeding the system dry on every level from the top down. The result is that some people that actually need assistance are left to fend for themselves, because there simply aren't enough resources left for them.

comrade stalin used to have his top level people shot on a regular basis, just to keep the resources flowing. those were the days...

I should buy an Ishtar.
flakeys
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-10-24 15:19:53 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Wich would be the part where i said people are able to leech from it .It's either that or nothing at all and as said before then i choose the first.


This would be all good and well if everybody that needed help got it. In reality that's not the case, as there's people bleeding the system dry on every level from the top down. The result is that some people that actually need assistance are left to fend for themselves, because there simply aren't enough resources left for them.


And again yes i know.Let's make this easier and to the point:

Do you agree with me that it is better to have a system to help out a lot of people EVEN though it will be abused by those who do not need any help and that it also does not help everyone in need OR do you believe that since you can not help everyone and the system will be abused it is better to offer no helping hand at all.



That is all that it comes down to , there is no in between possible.


Daniel Plain wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Wich would be the part where i said people are able to leech from it .It's either that or nothing at all and as said before then i choose the first.


This would be all good and well if everybody that needed help got it. In reality that's not the case, as there's people bleeding the system dry on every level from the top down. The result is that some people that actually need assistance are left to fend for themselves, because there simply aren't enough resources left for them.

comrade stalin used to have his top level people shot on a regular basis, just to keep the resources flowing. those were the days...



Mostly because he was one paranoid freak ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#28 - 2014-10-24 16:54:34 UTC
flakeys wrote:
And again yes i know.Let's make this easier and to the point:

Do you agree with me that it is better to have a system to help out a lot of people EVEN though it will be abused by those who do not need any help and that it also does not help everyone in need OR do you believe that since you can not help everyone and the system will be abused it is better to offer no helping hand at all.



That is all that it comes down to , there is no in between possible.


In the general sense that the question was asked, I answer 1), with the caveat that it has to be done well enough not to screw over the active participants in it (i.e. the people who pay for everything through taxes), or Greece happens.
Nathan Shavit
Shavit Risk Management
#29 - 2014-10-28 09:30:16 UTC
K Raz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KZgHgWF.png

How will this change the market? -News at 11

It won't. But I do love that price. When I left EVE they were trading at 550m. Time to sell some PLEX XD

There is no problem an air strike cannot solve.
Black Madness
Natural Born Builders
New Eden Gambling Alliance
#30 - 2014-10-28 21:10:28 UTC
In the meanwhile this afternoon plex were at 850M.
Johan Lightstrider
Antwerpse Kerels
#31 - 2014-10-29 12:57:58 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
And again yes i know.Let's make this easier and to the point:

Do you agree with me that it is better to have a system to help out a lot of people EVEN though it will be abused by those who do not need any help and that it also does not help everyone in need OR do you believe that since you can not help everyone and the system will be abused it is better to offer no helping hand at all.



That is all that it comes down to , there is no in between possible.


In the general sense that the question was asked, I answer 1), with the caveat that it has to be done well enough not to screw over the active participants in it (i.e. the people who pay for everything through taxes), or Greece happens.



You are forgeting the Benevolant supreme leader Johan option.
I will screen all people, for a small fee and some of your freedoms, and dispesnse fair and correct treatment as is needed.

They get "proper and correct help"TM and I get a small compensation for my benevolant and highly fair work.
flakeys
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-10-29 13:17:03 UTC
Johan Lightstrider wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
flakeys wrote:
And again yes i know.Let's make this easier and to the point:

Do you agree with me that it is better to have a system to help out a lot of people EVEN though it will be abused by those who do not need any help and that it also does not help everyone in need OR do you believe that since you can not help everyone and the system will be abused it is better to offer no helping hand at all.



That is all that it comes down to , there is no in between possible.


In the general sense that the question was asked, I answer 1), with the caveat that it has to be done well enough not to screw over the active participants in it (i.e. the people who pay for everything through taxes), or Greece happens.



You are forgeting the Benevolant supreme leader Johan option.
I will screen all people, for a small fee and some of your freedoms, and dispesnse fair and correct treatment as is needed.

They get "proper and correct help"TM and I get a small compensation for my benevolant and highly fair work.



Ow i know how you work johan Blink.Good to see you're still kicking around mate , hope everything is well in FCON land.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#33 - 2014-10-30 09:58:30 UTC
K Raz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KZgHgWF.png

How will this change the market? -News at 11

(Wasn't CCP btw, player unloaded FW stuff)
How evil this man is ! Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Nathan Shavit
Shavit Risk Management
#34 - 2014-11-07 14:33:41 UTC
mynnna wrote:
A millionaire in EVE isn't actually space rich though.

What is considered space rich these days? 10b, 100b, 1t, 10t? I've always been really happy with a wallet balance over 5b but I'm starting so see how little that actually is.

There is no problem an air strike cannot solve.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#35 - 2014-11-07 14:39:39 UTC
K Raz wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/KZgHgWF.png

How will this change the market? -News at 11

(Wasn't CCP btw, player unloaded FW stuff)


This price (if people will buy from it) will effect the rolling avarage price. Then, on outside tools (EVEcentral i.e.) will have a higher avarage price for that region. So, can be all kind of reasons.

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