EVE General Discussion

Good, that means the much more dangerous Awoxers can get in.

Subscriber numbers grew on the back of Eve being a harsh and dangerous place.

People in Eve don't destroy the fun of anyone. Whether you are having fun or not is totally up to your mindset. If people accepted that no place is safe in Eve, there would be far fewer problems then there are.

Reducing the opportunities for people is not the way to stop 'red-headed step-children', because they don't exist in the first place. Surely it's possible to have a discussion without resorting to insults. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to put an argument forward.

good change from CCP.

We will still be able to steal everything they own. Yes us unsavorary types are getting yet another little nerf but in all honesty this is something that we can do without if it means small corps will now take on newer pilots. We can get them in other ways

I'm guessing you can still shoot when in fleet?

Everyone should work under the same rules, oddities in them like this shouldnt exist.

We steal from people who do know how the corp management mechanics work, the vast bulk of the big scores are done on these people. CCP might be able to make the management system easier to understand but they cannot fix people.

Anyone who thinks Awoxing is something that should be a part of EVE is what's wrong with this game. Honestly.

People join a corp to group together. It makes absolutely no sense for CONCORD to go 'congratulations, you are now in a player owned corporation! We will kill anyone who harms you without authorisation, except your corp mates.'

It's a stupid relic from the dark ages of EVE and it's good that it's going away. You want PVP? You work for it. Even ganking involved more effort than joining a corp, shooting everything and never docking

Cuz ECM IS OP and no fair fights anyeays

Not surprised to see it go and here is why: It serves no positive purpose or function and it has severe negative consequences. Getting rid of it has huge benefits and only inconveniences a minuscule minority of players. It's a no-brainer change, if your main concern is the overall health of the game.

The main potential positive would be testing, but test fights can easily be done through dueling or stealing, so no major change there. The main and pretty much only use of the mechanic at the moment is griefing. It's not rule breaking griefplay, but it is still very damaging to the game. Not because a few highsec carebears got their feelings hurt, but because it heavily undermines the willingness of recruiters and the players to get together in the first place. That joining of forces is the lifeblood of any MMO and stepping on the toes of a few players skirting with the rules is a minute price to pay to make that joining a much easier task to achieve. It will be good for many corps. It will be good for new players who will find a much easier time to find people to fly with without subjecting themselves to giving a blood sample and receiving deep anal probing, before they'll even be considered as a potential candidate. It will also be good for CCP, since social connections and positive player interaction is the key to retaining players in the long term.

I suppose you could claim giving surprise buttsex to clueless new players is somehow good for them and the game. That it will somehow grow character, weed out the unwanted or teach them some lesson, but there is no shortage of that type of experiences in EVE and in this area the price paid for the privilege of freely shooting corp mates is in no way proportional to the massive negatives.