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This is crazy!

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Kestral Anneto
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-29 19:41:11 UTC
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2014-10-29 19:45:12 UTC
Rabble, rabble...rabble!!

What exactly do you expect the good citizens of the General Drama forum area to do about this?

If only there were a forum area where you could propose new features and ideas for CCP's perusal...

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Deimos UK
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-10-29 19:54:53 UTC
Personally, I like the idea of spending weeks training tech 2 salvagers / noctis / sal rigs not to include hundreds of millions of ISK (T2 sal rigs 30 mil each) just to churl over level 4 missions salvage at around 1-2 mil each (excluding loot).

Then of course the mining... mine full cargo hold of Kernite = 3.2 mil. Travel null, mine same cargo hold of that "A" mine (from the A,B,C of minerals to get - cant remember what its called) anyway, 2.4 mil. Yeah I get regional variations and also mine to build rather than sell but still... WTF

You have done well to not get ganked, or gate camped to even find some relic sites.

I hope your getting more enjoyment out this game then I am, months in and bored out my head at gate camps, roaming fleets to kill sole ships etc
Regnag Leppod
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-10-29 20:15:32 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Rabble, rabble...rabble!!

What exactly do you expect the good citizens of the General Drama forum area to do about this?

If only there were a forum area where you could propose new features and ideas for CCP to completely ignore and pretend don't exist...


fixed.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-10-29 20:22:13 UTC
Huh, just unlucky is my guess. I undocked last night to two relic sites and the night before that I ran two data sites a few jumps from home.

CCP has no sense of humour.

Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-10-29 20:23:59 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?


Question 1. Are sure it was 50+ or is there an element of hyperbole here?
Question 2. In what area of space were you scanning?
Question 3. At what time if the day were you scanning?
Question 4. How busy were the systems you scanning in?
Question 5. Did you see probes on d-scan that did not belong to you?
Question 6. Did you check dotlan (or any map) to see traffic flows in the area you were scanning in?


Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#7 - 2014-10-29 20:30:37 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Kestral Anneto wrote:
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?


Question 1. Are sure it was 50+ or is there an element of hyperbole here?
Question 2. In what area of space were you scanning?
Question 3. At what time if the day were you scanning?
Question 4. How busy were the systems you scanning in?
Question 5. Did you see probes on d-scan that did not belong to you?
Question 6. Did you check dotlan (or any map) to see traffic flows in the area you were scanning in?




I think I can safely say that I have jumped 50 systems over on the East side of the map without finding a relic site.
290xanaots
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-29 20:33:17 UTC
RNGesus works in mysterious ways.
Thead Enco
HR..
#9 - 2014-10-29 20:33:28 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?


Whelp, how predictable.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-10-29 20:39:09 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:


I think I can safely say that I have jumped 50 systems over on the East side of the map without finding a relic site.


He said relic/data. The reason relics don't appear is that they are worth doing so they get snaffled very quickly. Having said that I tend to hit 1 - 2 every 10 jumps out in the deep east. I hit data every 2-3 jumps because they are not worth doing and are left alone.
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#11 - 2014-10-29 20:55:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Violet Hurst
Kestral Anneto wrote:
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?


Hi.
Fully scanning down 50 systems and not finding a single relic or data site seems like ridiculously bad luck to me. Unless you didn't pay attention to the fact that this profession is commonly referred to as exploration, meaning "to boldly go where no one has gone before". What worked for me is finding less populated systems, e.g. by using the map filters "players in space ..." and "players currently docked and active", and also using timeslots that are less busy. This resulted in finding a site roughly every 12 highsec or 4 lowsec systems. I have yet to venture into null, but am confident to get even better results there, since, quoting a certain FC, "None of these dudes are in space, these [people involved in sexual intercourse] don't play the game."
Another take on this which i overheard in local though was to use reverse psychology and scan down the signatures exactly along the trade routes, since most explorers "don't even try".
In the end, just remember that almost everybody wants to get rich quickly, so in the end all moneymaking activities converge towards the same isk/effort/creativity/risk/hour ratio. I hope this post was helpfull and wish you the best of luck, but slightly less than me in the future. Big smile
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-10-29 21:50:41 UTC
did you not consider any other possibilities other than CCP taking away your sites before you posted?
Ayx Shewma
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-10-29 22:52:56 UTC
Is it possible you have a filter set to where your ship automatically ignores data/relic sites? I make this mistake from time to time.

Also, are you talking high sec, or null?
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#14 - 2014-10-29 23:01:15 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?


Welcome to the post removing of rats from exploration sites so it makes it anyone in any ship can do them without any issues.
R0mparkin
Th3 Illuminati
#15 - 2014-10-29 23:38:51 UTC
leave high sec and you will prob find one or two
Samir Duran Xadi
Diversity Equity and Inclusion
#16 - 2014-10-29 23:53:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Samir Duran Xadi
so call me maybe?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-10-29 23:58:03 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
I've been through 50+ systems, scanning for relic/data sites, I didn't find one!
Whats the point in uping the payout of the sites in the next patch if you can't find any?
why not half the payout, but double the chance of actually finding one to be able to GET the payout?


I don't believe you, because I've just probed out two adjacent constellations and found 50+ relics and datas. Maybe get out of high sec, and away from the competition.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#18 - 2014-10-30 01:13:20 UTC
Kestral Anneto wrote:
This is crazy!


THIS IS HIGHSEC!!!!

(kicks OP into pit of death)

CONCORDOKKEN!!!!!!!

Worth it.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#19 - 2014-10-30 02:44:36 UTC
I was talking about null myself. Relic sites in null are pretty crappy these days. In high or low you would be better off belt ratting!
Derrick Miles
Death Rabbit Ky Oneida
#20 - 2014-10-30 06:18:44 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
I was talking about null myself. Relic sites in null are pretty crappy these days. In high or low you would be better off belt ratting!

Try exploring in empty renter space, the sites are all over the place.
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