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The unfair treatment from CCP GM community manager (MUST SEE)

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Thead Enco
Domheimed
#21 - 2014-10-29 18:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Thead Enco
Rixxx wrote:
Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2kp7af/ccp_community_manager_falcon_banned_a_user_for_no/

and more to come... in addition to blogs and gaming news/discussion sites if this is not fixed. Please give my other account a warning or worst case the 14-day ban and not automatically 30 day ban. This is unfair treatment.



It seems you lost the voice of the Reddit Army...Good night o7 Sweet Prince,
Rixxx
The Trading Co.
Memento Moriendo
#22 - 2014-10-29 18:50:12 UTC
Mirrodin wrote:
Nothing you say/do is going to have any impact on CCP or the community. Even the mods at /r/eve removed your post for being pure idiocy. You messed up and now you're paying the (well deserved) price.

Leave EVE and make the game a better place. Please and Thank you.


Then let us not complain or be a critic to how some CCP employees can abuse their power for there own personal decision?

Remember that employee who helped out BoB with BPO in the past? and now a moderator giving me 30 days ban without even giving me a warning or worst case 14 day ban?

That's is okay with you? No it's not and VERY UNFAIR.
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-10-29 18:50:19 UTC
There is a right way and a wrong way. Then there is the OP's way....
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-10-29 18:51:36 UTC
Rixxx wrote:


Then let us not complain or be a critic to how some CCP employees can abuse their power for there own personal decision?

Remember that employee who helped out BoB with BPO in the past?


Not OK

Rixxx wrote:
and now a moderator giving me 30 days ban without even giving me a warning or worst case 14 day ban?

That's is okay with you? No it's not and VERY UNFAIR.


Fine by Me
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#25 - 2014-10-29 18:51:57 UTC
Im going to go ahead and do Ezwal's work for him, so all he has to do is quote and lock.


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Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Rixxx
The Trading Co.
Memento Moriendo
#26 - 2014-10-29 18:52:23 UTC
Cancel Align NOW wrote:
Rixxx wrote:


Then let us not complain or be a critic to how some CCP employees can abuse their power for there own personal decision?

Remember that employee who helped out BoB with BPO in the past?


Not OK

Rixxx wrote:
and now a moderator giving me 30 days ban without even giving me a warning or worst case 14 day ban?

That's is okay with you? No it's not and VERY UNFAIR.


Fine by Me


Until it happens to you then you won't be fine. It takes an open mind person to understand what I'm dealing with.
Mirrodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-10-29 18:53:04 UTC
Rixxx wrote:
Mirrodin wrote:
Nothing you say/do is going to have any impact on CCP or the community. Even the mods at /r/eve removed your post for being pure idiocy. You messed up and now you're paying the (well deserved) price.

Leave EVE and make the game a better place. Please and Thank you.


Then let us not complain or be a critic to how some CCP employees can abuse their power for there own personal decision?

Remember that employee who helped out BoB with BPO in the past? and now a moderator giving me 30 days ban without even giving me a warning or worst case 14 day ban?

That's is okay with you? No it's not and VERY UNFAIR.


It's very okay with me that CCP Falcon and other very reasonable/known/liked personalities in the CCP Dev Community look out for other forum users by swiftly and mercilessly dealing with idiots like you.

It may not *seem* fair to you, but it's VERY FAIR to everyone else who may have had to potentially read your posts.
Paranoid Loyd
#28 - 2014-10-29 18:53:10 UTC
Rixxx wrote:

I think so it is what you said. But still taking a personal decision vs following your own policy is a BIG no no in any company. Or rather it looks VERY bad on them..

Plus it's not really a bunch of rant posts. If you follow what I did, I simply wanted to communicate with the ISD to understand what I can or can't do.

They are the very definition of rant posts.

It does not look bad on them, you went/are going to extreme measures to make your point, they took extreme measures to make an example of you as you crossed the line and then some. For every action....

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
stg slate
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-10-29 18:53:32 UTC  |  Edited by: stg slate
Rixxx wrote:

Go ahead if you want to defend him, he did break his own rules. I as a customer being treated harshly is unheard of on any gaming forum I ever been on.


Eh, its more relaxed than some. I got a 3-day INGAME ban for telling Cordovan over at the DDO forums that he should be ashamed to have the job that he has :P

EDIT: Note, it was quickly rescinded and I just got a warning, but guess I hit a nerve, here was the sentence that got me:

@Cordovan: You should be ashamed to work for the company you work for Sad
Rixxx
The Trading Co.
Memento Moriendo
#30 - 2014-10-29 18:53:47 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Im going to go ahead and do Ezwal's work for him, so all he has to do is quote and lock.


Thread locked for the following reasons:

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Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.

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Do you even know why they have that policy? So that if someone from them goes above their power and for his own personal feeling feels like I want to ban him for more days and not give him a warning he can do so without the public/community knowing. Communism has a similar policy
Rixxx
The Trading Co.
Memento Moriendo
#31 - 2014-10-29 18:55:04 UTC
stg slate wrote:
Rixxx wrote:

Go ahead if you want to defend him, he did break his own rules. I as a customer being treated harshly is unheard of on any gaming forum I ever been on.


Eh, its more relaxed than some. I got a 3-day INGAME ban for telling Cordovan over at the DDO forums that he should be ashamed to have the job that he has :P



Haha that's funny one :) but you know I'm just pissy about why they just didn't give me a 14 day ban and call it a day? But 30 day ban without any warning? Come on
Mirrodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-10-29 18:57:02 UTC
Rixxx wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Im going to go ahead and do Ezwal's work for him, so all he has to do is quote and lock.


Thread locked for the following reasons:

Quote:
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.

12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.

The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.





Do you even know why they have that policy? So that if someone from them goes above their power and for his own personal feeling feels like I want to ban him for more days and not give him a warning he can do so without the public/community knowing. Communism has a similar policy


Communism is an socioeconomic system to remove classes/castes and personal ownership. You've just crossed into being a complete crazy person as well as being stupid.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#33 - 2014-10-29 18:57:42 UTC
Roll

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Rixxx
The Trading Co.
Memento Moriendo
#34 - 2014-10-29 18:58:50 UTC
Mirrodin wrote:
Rixxx wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Im going to go ahead and do Ezwal's work for him, so all he has to do is quote and lock.


Thread locked for the following reasons:

Quote:
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.

12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.

The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.





Do you even know why they have that policy? So that if someone from them goes above their power and for his own personal feeling feels like I want to ban him for more days and not give him a warning he can do so without the public/community knowing. Communism has a similar policy


Communism is an socioeconomic system to remove classes/castes and personal ownership. You've just crossed into being a complete crazy person as well as being stupid.


Let's make this simple to you and ALL (Those who are effortlessly defending Flacon):

So why did I get a 30 day ban and not a warning or worst case 14 day ban?
Iain Cariaba
#35 - 2014-10-29 18:59:29 UTC
Rixxx wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
I will give you a piece of advice.. if CCP choose, or any game publisher for that, can ban you for what ever length of time they like.

Why, because it is there game.

Sure it might not be great customer practice, but they can still do it if they choose too.





That's fine, I will return all the money I paid for their services for denying me parts of that service and I will never again buy/use or promote their product. In addition just the way I run things I will expose this to the rest of the gaming community on how they run things as I'm sure there's others who care how a company treats players.

Bye, don't let the door hit you on your way out, be sure to contract me all your stuff from the accounts that aren't banned.

IB4ban
Miko Jin
HELVEGEN
#36 - 2014-10-29 19:00:00 UTC
Rixxx wrote:
stg slate wrote:
Rixxx wrote:

Go ahead if you want to defend him, he did break his own rules. I as a customer being treated harshly is unheard of on any gaming forum I ever been on.


Eh, its more relaxed than some. I got a 3-day INGAME ban for telling Cordovan over at the DDO forums that he should be ashamed to have the job that he has :P



Haha that's funny one :) but you know I'm just pissy about why they just didn't give me a 14 day ban and call it a day? But 30 day ban without any warning? Come on


The ban policy is just a guidline and they will attach a ban of whatever duration as to the severity of the issue and your continued ranting and duplicate postings didn't help you so the portion of the blame falls on you.
As to reversing your payments! Good luck with that as CCP provided a service you paid for and took advantage of so you will not get your money back.
Mirrodin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-10-29 19:00:28 UTC
Rixxx wrote:
Mirrodin wrote:
Rixxx wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Im going to go ahead and do Ezwal's work for him, so all he has to do is quote and lock.


Thread locked for the following reasons:

Quote:
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.

12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.

The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category.





Do you even know why they have that policy? So that if someone from them goes above their power and for his own personal feeling feels like I want to ban him for more days and not give him a warning he can do so without the public/community knowing. Communism has a similar policy


Communism is an socioeconomic system to remove classes/castes and personal ownership. You've just crossed into being a complete crazy person as well as being stupid.


Let's make this simple to you and ALL (Those who are effortlessly defending Flacon):

So why did I get a 30 day ban and not a warning or worst case 14 day ban?


Well why don't you tell us exactly what you did that warranted a Warning in the first place?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2014-10-29 19:00:59 UTC
Rixxx wrote:

Do you even know why they have that policy? So that if someone from them goes above their power and for his own personal feeling feels like I want to ban him for more days and not give him a warning he can do so without the public/community knowing. Communism has a similar policy


As a member of the glorious socialist movement I take offence to your assuming our democratic dictatorship has no freedom. CCCP Falcon is clearly the best Falcon.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#39 - 2014-10-29 19:03:00 UTC
Rixxx wrote:
So why did I get a 30 day ban and not a warning or worst case 14 day ban?



Had you petitioned nicely and patiently, and made a well thought out and reasoned defense for your actions in the first place, they may have rethought your sentence. They do that on occasion you know.

Buuuut... seeing as that you are ranting and raving all over the place.. and pretty much doing the exact opposite of what I mentioned.. aaaand making a fantastic case for limiting NPC alt posting abilities... I can see why you will be partaking in a 30 day vacation vs a shorter one.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#40 - 2014-10-29 19:03:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Rixxx wrote:
Boo hoo hoo I got a forum ban for breaking the rules
You were warned multiple times when you insisted on reposting locked rule breaking threads. Suck it up buttercup.

Also good luck with reversing your credit card payments, you pay for access to the game server subject to the terms and conditions contained in the EULA, which is a service that CCP have delivered to you. Trying to recover money for services that you have received is fraud.

Access to the forums is a free side benefit that can be removed at any time.

IB4L for discussion of forum moderation and bans.

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