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Mohamad Awax
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-10-28 16:13:23 UTC
hi , am a loki / Vargur/ Nagflar pilot that has spent most his 3+ eve life in Nullsec and would like to dive into wh space

I live to pvp in my loki, PVE with Vargur and both PVE/PVP with Nag

What type of wh would suite me best ?
Do i necessarly need to bring in a Nag if i want to join a well established corp/alliance?
Is it hard to be accepted in a vet alliance like NOHO/ Adhoc/ Explosion, etc..?
Would they accept me if i have alts in null (u know i dont see how null might have conflict with wh, but some people ask for full API and it would be hard to leak my Null sec alliance mail due to the fact its.. serious business)

also knowing that i like to pvp, FC primarly and PVE when there is nothing else to do
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#2 - 2014-10-28 16:24:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
The answers to those will vary a lot group to group but generally most groups will want full API with atleast the ability to see mail headers though each group will have its own policies in regard to alts.

Generally having your own capital is an advantage, some groups will have "corp" capitals though often they won't be made available to new members. Most groups will have plenty of uses for a loki pilot though.

Your probably looking for a C5/6 group with those abilities and requirements though.
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-10-28 16:25:54 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
Sounds like you might enjoy a C5/6. It was possible to solo C5 sites in a Vargur before the RR changes. Now I understand that it's harder and/or slower. Keith Planck has some good posts on the subject.

Most any corp in this area of space would PVP with loki/nag depending on circumstances. This part should be fairly common. It's likely that they would like you to bring your nag. Unless they're a huge alliance, and even if they are, they'd probably appreciate it.

I can't speak to the culture in various groups. I know that my corp is accepting to WH newbies, but your mileage may vary.

As for having alts in null, that depends entirely on the group and which null entity you're aligned with. My corp does require full API to join, as do every reputable WH group I'm aware of. Unless you have a close personal recommendation from a member in good standing, you'd expect to need an API. If this is too precious to you, finding a group to fly with may be an issue. On the other hand, what does some WH group care with the inner workings of a null group? Maybe it's safe enough for you to just let them see your API and trust them not to burn you. vOv

The concern some groups may have with a dual null/WH pilot is usually that these people just want to make WH money and not bring content to the corp. As long as you're giving proper respect to the needs of the WH group, this may not be a problem. Of course, wormholing is time intensive, and splitting your time between the two groups may mean that you're stretched too thin. I can't make that call for you.

That said, if you're capable and willing to help FC/create content I suspect you can find a home in wormholes. Good luck.

Feel free to convo me in-game with any other questions, etc.

Welcome to wormholes!

edit: RR changes, duh.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#4 - 2014-10-28 16:56:40 UTC
It may not be possible to solo c5's in a marauder due to the remote repping fix.

But you are looking for a c4, c5 or c6. In a c4 you will have to build your capital inside the hole, and self destructi it for insurance when you decide to leave.

Yaay!!!!
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-10-28 16:58:42 UTC
Pretty much every serious C5/6 corp will require a full API.
Having alts is usually not a problem - not providing the API keys for those alts because you still feel committed to your nullsec alliance usually is a problem.
Living in w-space with other people requires quite a bit more trust in those people than it does in k-space. Those API checks are performed to check if you are trying to hide something from the corp and thus can't be trusted. Limiting the API to certain characters kind of defeats that purpose.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#6 - 2014-10-28 17:13:20 UTC
As a previous recruiter for BF if you can't give a full api you're instantly denied and forgotten

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-10-28 22:15:01 UTC
Most corps dont accept alts of people who mostly play in NS.

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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#8 - 2014-10-28 23:03:02 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
As a previous recruiter for BF if you can't give a full api you're instantly denied and forgotten



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Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#9 - 2014-10-29 01:14:16 UTC
i think half your problem is, and i don't want to sound racist or nothing, but having a name like Awax is a bit suspicious.

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Viscis Breeze
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2014-10-29 18:03:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Viscis Breeze
Mohamad Awax wrote:
hi , am a loki / Vargur/ Nagflar pilot that has spent most his 3+ eve life in Nullsec and would like to dive into wh space

I live to pvp in my loki, PVE with Vargur and both PVE/PVP with Nag

What type of wh would suite me best ?
Do i necessarly need to bring in a Nag if i want to join a well established corp/alliance?
Is it hard to be accepted in a vet alliance like NOHO/ Adhoc/ Explosion, etc..?
Would they accept me if i have alts in null (u know i dont see how null might have conflict with wh, but some people ask for full API and it would be hard to leak my Null sec alliance mail due to the fact its.. serious business)

also knowing that i like to pvp, FC primarly and PVE when there is nothing else to do


From my corporations POV.

1. PvP loki is fine, make sure its armour.
2. Not especially, we tend to discourage new members from bringing capitals until we're sure they are fitting in well with us.
3. Yes its harder to get into the vet alliances, mostly because they don't need the members and tend to recruit via recommendation / friends rather than openly recruiting.
4. Unlikely / depends. As someone else said, we don't like it when you use us to farm and fund your nullsec life.
5. Most groups will expect you to give up your soul, this includes full API keys.

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Kirasten
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-29 19:14:01 UTC
Viscis Breeze wrote:

5. Most groups will expect you to give up your soul, this includes full API keys.


I wondered where my soul went. I've been looking for it.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#12 - 2014-10-29 19:21:25 UTC
There's an in-game channel called "Join W-Space" with an assortment of pilots in it discussing wormhole life and how to get started, among other things. Join it, read MOTD, ask questions.
O'nira
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-10-29 19:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: O'nira
Don't tell people you have alts in nullsec, it just screams that you are there to farm and not much else.

especially if you are bringing in 1 char while keeping multiple chars in null.

most w-space corps are mass recruiting so it's pretty easy to get in, or would be if you are actually joining and not putting an alt in like you are.