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EVE IPH Industry Calculator Version 3.3 - Now with Live Market data!

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1561 - 2014-10-29 00:14:52 UTC
svr is still working if you pick 30 or more days :)
Tobias Destroious
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Goonswarm Federation
#1562 - 2014-10-29 07:21:07 UTC
I am experiencing an issue when setting multiple runs of an item on multiple blueprints calculation is scaling even though the blueprints are 1 runs.

As an example a 1 run ME10 TE 20 Ares blueprint.

When setting the runs to 10 and the BP's to 10 the fusion reactor unit is 45 in total, however 1 run is 5 therefore total should be 50.

Am I setting it wrong or is it a problem?

It is not limited to the Ares I have had this on quite a few items.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1563 - 2014-10-29 10:01:48 UTC
That's correct behaviour post Crius.

If you go back and read the dev blogs on the industry changes, reductions from ME are now calculated per batch where formerlly they were calculated per run. Hence more runs can result in more material reduction (though it'll never go below 1 item needed per run)
Tobias Destroious
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Goonswarm Federation
#1564 - 2014-10-29 10:37:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobias Destroious
Elena Thiesant wrote:
That's correct behaviour post Crius.

If you go back and read the dev blogs on the industry changes, reductions from ME are now calculated per batch where formerlly they were calculated per run. Hence more runs can result in more material reduction (though it'll never go below 1 item needed per run)


I think I may not have explained it correctly, I understand that if I have a 10 run blueprint then the materials scale.

What I am saying is the IPH is calculating scaling for a 10 run blueprint even though I am adding 10 runs and 10 bp's and 10 lines.

I take it this shouldn't or how should my settings be if this is user error.

Thanks in advance
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1565 - 2014-10-29 10:58:42 UTC
Ah, ok. Gotcha.

Maybe drop Zifiram a mail in-game as that's how he's asked for bug reports.
There's a related problem with T2 BPCs, I enter 10 runs and the BP counter changes to 10 and can't be changed, but T2 module BPCs are 10 run before decryptors, so 10 runs = 1 BPC, not 10.

I'm kinda glad it's scaling 10 BPCs as if they were 1, as otherwise the maths on my T2s would be off. :-)
Tobias Destroious
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Goonswarm Federation
#1566 - 2014-10-29 11:00:34 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Ah, ok. Gotcha.

Maybe drop Zifiram a mail in-game as that's how he's asked for bug reports.
There's a related problem with T2 BPCs, I enter 10 runs and the BP counter changes to 10 and can't be changed, but T2 module BPCs are 10 run before decryptors, so 10 runs = 1 BPC, not 10.

I'm kinda glad it's scaling 10 BPCs as if they were 1, as otherwise the maths on my T2s would be off. :-)



I will do thanks,

That's my problem the maths is off, it is scaling 10 bpc's as 1 10 run, so keep being short on the production.

Thanks for the advice
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1567 - 2014-10-30 02:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Quick update: Thanks everyone for their input and bug reports. I didn't really plan this update out too well (actually I had not intended on providing a test version when I did - people just found it lol) so there are still a lot of things that I had hoped to finish. But oh well...too late now!

Where I am now is that I'm working through all the posts here and evemails I get. I consolidate that and put it in this file: http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC to track issues and to allow people to see what bugs I've said I've fixed and those outstanding. Basically I have a few major issues that will take me some time to get through - mostly the facility functions and finishing the data in the manufacturing tab. A lot of the others have been relatively easy to fix but I just haven't had much time (work is busy this time of year).

As we go on, it would help tons if you did the following for reporting issues:

1 - Check the bug list and see if the issue is there or reported as fixed (and still causing problems)
2 - Send EVE Mail with the issue
3 - always be specific as possible. Screenshots are really useful (great example here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/llu797vcpc1sgry/Screenshot%202014-10-24%2023.24.06.jpg - I was able to reproduce the error by selecting all the options shown)
4 - If the error causes a crash and you see the error screen, please copy that text and EVE mail it to me.

Whats next - I hope to get most of the major issues fixed soon and when I'm ok with where the program is, I'll switch it over to the main update files. Since this program is mostly in perpetual "beta" as it were, I just want to get it to the point that an error won't require everyone to re-install.

For Pheobe I plan to do the best I can to remove all the meta items and adjust T3 to "invention" as outlined in the blog on these changes. I'm not sure what is going on with them but I've seen the devs say they are going to scrap the multi-outcomes from invention, which makes me very happy wrt IPH development. A Devblog is forthcoming apparently.

After that I'll continue to fix issues with this version before working on any new things. I have a bunch of ideas but I need to revisit that list to see what I can realistically do. This update sucked a lot of time just to get back to what I had. I'd like to get the ability to increase the size of the application and different font sizes at some point. Also, a PI tab has eluded me for a few years now and I'd love to get that done. I'll update as I can.

Thanks for using the program and all the isk donations. As a final note, if you want to support development by donating real money, I now accept paypal at ZifrianEVE@gmail.com o7

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1568 - 2014-10-30 07:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Zifrian wrote:
I consolidate that and put it in this file: http://pastebin.com/edit.php?i=cHDi63yC to track issues and to allow people to see what bugs I've said I've fixed and those outstanding.


Hi Zifrian

That page requires login. Did you mean http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC ?

I'll mail you a few more issues over the weekend (not in the known or fixed list)
Shingyoku
Griffin Support Services
Ad-Astra
#1569 - 2014-10-30 07:15:26 UTC
Only thing I can say about the new version isn't really a bug, so I'll post it here. The Manufacturing list tab is actually showing too much information, or at the very least has the more important information sorted away from view. Yes I know I can sort it myself so this is really more of an ascetics complaint then anything, just an observation.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1570 - 2014-10-30 10:09:58 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Zifrian wrote:
I consolidate that and put it in this file: http://pastebin.com/edit.php?i=cHDi63yC to track issues and to allow people to see what bugs I've said I've fixed and those outstanding.


Hi Zifrian

That page requires login. Did you mean http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC ?

I'll mail you a few more issues over the weekend (not in the known or fixed list)

Yes, fixed above.

Shingyoku wrote:
Only thing I can say about the new version isn't really a bug, so I'll post it here. The Manufacturing list tab is actually showing too much information, or at the very least has the more important information sorted away from view. Yes I know I can sort it myself so this is really more of an ascetics complaint then anything, just an observation.

I'm setting them to all view as default now for testing but then I'll restrict it to a few key fields as the default after I'm ok with any bug fixes. It's a lot easier for me to fix by showing them all now. But yes I agree.

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Seraphina Amaranth
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1571 - 2014-10-30 11:38:57 UTC
Zifrian
Where I am now is that I'm working through all the posts here and evemails I get. I consolidate that and put it in this file: [url=http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC wrote:
http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC[/url] to track issues and to allow people to see what bugs I've said I've fixed and those outstanding.


Why not add them as tickets in source forge, or issues in github or whatever? Having a monolithic list of problems in a text file is so 20th century.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#1572 - 2014-10-30 11:58:52 UTC
It occurs to me that I've completely forgotten to thank Zifrian for the hard work and the fantastic usefulness of IPH. It's bloody revolutionized my industry career and is directly responsible for me being in the "space rich" category.

Thank you. Who's awesome? You're awesome. Chribba levels of awesome.
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#1573 - 2014-10-30 14:45:54 UTC
Seraphina Amaranth wrote:
Zifrian
Where I am now is that I'm working through all the posts here and evemails I get. I consolidate that and put it in this file: [url=http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC wrote:
http://pastebin.com/cHDi63yC[/url] to track issues and to allow people to see what bugs I've said I've fixed and those outstanding.


Why not add them as tickets in source forge, or issues in github or whatever? Having a monolithic list of problems in a text file is so 20th century.

Well, if I did that then I couldn't say I'm 'old school' anymore :p

Honestly, that ticket thing is a pain the ass for just me. I've used the interface and this is just easier. It really is about saving time. If there were more devs, that would be a better system for sure. But for now this works fine. Maybe GitHub is better (people are telling me sourceforge is old school too lol) but I'd have to migrate everything and that also takes time.

Maximze your Industry Potential! - Download EVE Isk per Hour!

Import CCP's SDE - EVE SDE Database Builder

Shingyoku
Griffin Support Services
Ad-Astra
#1574 - 2014-10-31 05:47:10 UTC
Zifrian wrote:


Shingyoku wrote:
Only thing I can say about the new version isn't really a bug, so I'll post it here. The Manufacturing list tab is actually showing too much information, or at the very least has the more important information sorted away from view. Yes I know I can sort it myself so this is really more of an ascetics complaint then anything, just an observation.

I'm setting them to all view as default now for testing but then I'll restrict it to a few key fields as the default after I'm ok with any bug fixes. It's a lot easier for me to fix by showing them all now. But yes I agree.



It occurred to me I forgot to say thank you for the program, So thank you from the bottom of my heart, couldn't start on T2 manufacturing without this thing. That said a little further on what I said before, I'm unable to move the profit percentage and isk per hour fields at least. Anything I can send you to help better the issue?
Bitter Fremlin
Heimatar Enhanced Fleet Industries
#1575 - 2014-10-31 11:10:49 UTC
Shingyoku wrote:
That said a little further on what I said before, I'm unable to move the profit percentage and isk per hour fields at least. Anything I can send you to help better the issue?

Both move fine for me, although there can be a bit of a delay in my (slow) VM. Have you changed anything in the "Select Columns" dialog yet? I stripped the number of columns right down, so perhaps that makes a difference.
Maddord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1576 - 2014-10-31 23:58:10 UTC
Great Program. Haven't used it since Cruis so unsure if I am missing something but it seems to use old values for Blueprints and the material costs? Is there an update?

Cheers
Shingyoku
Griffin Support Services
Ad-Astra
#1577 - 2014-11-01 00:25:57 UTC
Bitter Fremlin wrote:
Shingyoku wrote:
That said a little further on what I said before, I'm unable to move the profit percentage and isk per hour fields at least. Anything I can send you to help better the issue?

Both move fine for me, although there can be a bit of a delay in my (slow) VM. Have you changed anything in the "Select Columns" dialog yet? I stripped the number of columns right down, so perhaps that makes a difference.



No, I hadn't even seen that option, that solves everything right there! thanks.
Myelectronicdays
Perkone
Caldari State
#1578 - 2014-11-02 01:22:37 UTC
Hey there, love this program.. recently returning to game after about a year off. When i go to set my default character.. or sometimes even launching.. I am getting a straight crash.

Unhandling Error:
Message: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Running windows 7.

Anyone able to help on this? never got issues before.

Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1579 - 2014-11-02 02:38:17 UTC
Don't use your existing version (2.x). Not compatible with Crius.

There's a Crius-compatible version in testing. If you want to help with the testing, see Zifrian's earlier posts and get the test version from the Sourceforge site.
Myelectronicdays
Perkone
Caldari State
#1580 - 2014-11-02 17:20:47 UTC
perfect, ty Smile