Intergalactic Summit

Mr Blake what you say some times may appear true from your experience and prospective but from my own that not quite so.
Many a design has originated from nature, for example the ability to warp long distinctness would have been impossible with out the space flight which in turn originates from atmospheric flight.
As such Man/Woman invented artificial flight from watching and desiring to fly like those animals who possessed the ability of self powered flight and invented aircraft, and of course some animals evolved to fly through necessity so it boils back down to evolution.

BUT then as I said that's just my point of view

Could you elaborate on these two points? First that "everything about us is wrong" and that we are "filth that contaminates your space and brings nothing but mischief" and second the "later events" that confirmed your point of view. I ask because these are normally the kinds of statements one qualifies if they intend to be taken seriously.

Also, before you respond, I warn you in advance that I will quite probably attempt a rebuttal to your statements so basing them in fact rather than opinion and conjecture would be greatly appreciated.




Actually, I think this might explain a lot and answer some of my questions. I am sorry you have this impression of "freedom" since clearly your definition of it and my definition of it differ greatly.

I think I will retain from answering the first part, as it would require quite a lot of things to say about and would need a separate discussion, which I will probably do as I find a bit more time.

For "later events" I, however, can list well known facts. I hope that will saturate your interest.

1. Suicide attack of Federal Nyx-class supercarrier on Malkalen Station with peace conference between the State and the Federation. The Nyx was piloted by well-known Federal admiral.

2. Documented racism of Gallente citizens on Caldari Prime against Caldari peoples, with destruction of religious and historical centers, defacing of monuments, attacking citizens by racial bias, and even inscriptions and calls to "Exterminate all Caldari"

3. Biased Gallente police on Caldari Prime during these events, as no one of Gallente racists were detained, but Caldari protesters were beaten. This was depicted in news during that time.

4. Gallente hidden prison facilities, where they physically torture Caldari POWs of seven Caldari Megacorporations (Ishukone prisoners usually are mysteriously not present in these facilities) with incredibly anti-humane approach, without providing them life necessities like food. They destroy whole facility if you would succeed to release prisoners from one part of it, killing everyone to prevent Caldari from escaping.

5. Gallente death squads, operating in occupied Black Rise systems.

6. Operation "Highlander":
6.1 The operation has started with ground assault on Caldari Prime, that was outside of depicted boundaries of conflict
6.2 The gallente fleet attacked Caldari fleet only after the Caldari fleet entered low orbit to support ground fighting, so as many debris would fall on Caldari Prime as possible.
6.3 Open lies, that goal was just to destroy Shiigeru, and not to cause devastation to the planet, as the ship could have been attacked any time without ground operation, that would prevent crashlanding or firing of the ship to the planet.
6.4 If the gallente claims that the ship was to destroy peoples on Caldari Prime were true, instead of providing military support, then they deliberately tried to force it to fire on the planet to cause as many civilian lives as possible, by provoking it with all means necessary before actually attacking the ship itself.
6.5 The whole operation was a military crime and violation of a treaty

As you can see, I presented just facts with little to no of my opinion, allowing myself just to speculate to interpret facts about p.6, as they were following with lots of lies and false claims from Federal side.

Unfortunately, I am afraid that this media won't allow me to write clearly everything that I think about gallenteans, and what I would very like to say out loud about each of these facts. CONCORD have rather strict rules about that.

These events were widely described in the media. For some of them (like attack of Noir's ship FNS Wandering Saint on the Malkalen Station) there are even live footage.

As for 4, they are known only to the State, where they are situated. I guess their presence Federation hides even from its own citizens. But you, as a capsuleer, can check their existence yourself if you come to Black Rise and can operate probe launcher: they hide themselves just like most of pirates - in deadspace pockets. I myself has raided several of such facilities and recovered these peoples.

For p.5 you will have to look through the State media again, because the Federation media will definitely won't speak about it.

And besides depiction in the media, I was myself present in Luminaire during p.6, participated in the fight and saw what was happening first-hand, from the very start to the very end, that's why I allowed myself to speak a bit more than usual and list facts that weren't depicted in media for this "operation".

Exactly this his behavior and lies, together with some personal experience with gallenteans make me feel about them what I feel now.


I don't have any means to verify or deny this. This is just your opinion, Mr. Antolliere, and my opinion contradicts yours.


I will look forward for results about amount of found Caldari and Gallente hidden prisoner facilities, as a comparison of treatment of POWs by Caldari and Gallente sides.


The Black Rise is Caldari region, and many systems are oppressed by Gallentean occupants.
There is a theory, that Gallente do racial clearing raid to repopulate region with gallentean colonists instead of Caldari. However, this is just a theory, even that I believe in it.
The existence of Death Squads is, although, was widely depicted in the State media for quite long period of time.


Okay, let me list just pure facts about it:

1. There was a treaty, that Caldari Prime was going to the State autorities after we liberated it from gallentean occupants, thanks to our greatest Hero and former Executer Tibus Heth, let his name always shine future for us.
2. According to the CEWPA, Caldari Prime and Luminaire wasn't included in the conflict between the Federation and the State as disputed territories.
3. Our fleets in Luminaire didn't provoke or attack any Federal property after the treaty has been signed. The coexistence of Federal and State vessels was rather peaceful in this system disregarding war raging in low security systems.
4. The operation began with illegal transporting of Federal combat lifeforce on the planet, and the fighting started down there.
5. The ground operations forced the Caldari fleet took position in low orbit
6. Neither the Titan, nor other ships from Caldari group never fire on the planet surface, despite Federation claims that it was their purpose
7. Federals claimed they were just going to destroy CN Shiigeru
8. But no attempts were made, while the ship was idle with very small support fleet
9. Instead, attack on ship was executed when the huge ship as a titan entered low planet orbit and was supported by larger capital fleet
10. You can see consequences of the titan scaring our planet yourself, if you will fly to Luminaire.
11. The scar that you will see on our planet - it was done by hands of gallenteans and their "Highlander" operation.

And now, not so fact, but... just my perception, but can you see coincidence between the name of the operation and the Titan falling down on Kaalakiota peaks?..

Apologise for what?
For following my heart?
For doing what in my view point is correct and true?

I would need first to feel ashamed before feeling the need to apologise, you say Terrorism where I call it protection of Minmatar borders form those who sought to perform acts that in the Minmatar are deemed illegal, and no I still help out from time to time by bringing aid to those slaves who sought and obtained freedom through their own means or the means of others.

I end my reply with this, if a man/Woman or Child wishes not to be a slave I see no reason why i should not aid them.
If they wish to be slaves then I will wish them luck in their chosen path, as such I see no acts of terrorism or shame worthy of asking any forgiveness.
I thank you for your words Mr Merdaneth and bid you good day sir.





Which is your prerogative to think and feel as you wish to with your own perspective, many from the Federation would feel the same about the state though to be honest I feel that in my own view both sides are as bad each other, I 'd laugh if it where not the for the fact of so many lives being wasted on both sides by conflict.
Personally, I would prefer to be named a terrorist, than a freedom fighter.
Terrorism is just poor man's war. Terrorists target to inflict fear by targeting non-combatants. This rarely works, and it is not professional approach to warfare, but still, it is a viable form of warfare.



For any race whose resources are not as great as their enemy I can see how some in the Minmatar perform such acts which I really don't condone, while mos others in the Minmatar rely on gorilla warfare instead which is more efficient, viable and effective against a strong better financed opponent.
As for your opinion about any one being a freedom fighter being mere savages I have to wonder if your opinion is biased because of the word Freedom is used in the description?..I ask this because you have shown a psychological tick in regards to this word and your own personal view of the words meaning which you have on more than one occasion demonstration.

Hmnn!....I see, well that's good to know for future references for further communications on the I.G.S. after all it is not my intent to cause disrespect to any one; as such I can now leave out or replace this particular Trigger Word with one more suitable as its.
Though I apologise for using the trigger word so many times previously and causing you to react negatively because of it.

Mr Egivand it would appear you have misinterpreted what was said, the term gorilla warfare refers to style of military tactics that allow a military force to face off against an opponent who has either grater numbers, resources or technology in an efficient and effective manner via the use of irregular warfare in which the main stay of tactics such as ambushes, sabotage, raids, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility to fight a larger and superior military force.

Oh an d i should apologize to all for the typo, I belive the word I used should have had an 'e' on the end.

Then it is spelled 'Guerilla'.