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Fighting PL, advice?

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heaventrice
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-12 08:30:19 UTC
So PL has been dropping around the area latly. Usually in LR rohks with scimmy support and doing quiet well. I was wondering what tactic and ship types would be most effective against them? Advice is welcome.
never leaving amarr
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-12-12 12:35:20 UTC
Use supers
Monique Severasse
Negative Pressure Union
#3 - 2011-12-12 12:50:59 UTC
Keep your taunts and slurs monosyllabic.
Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-12 13:02:13 UTC
Quote:
Use supers
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#5 - 2011-12-12 13:27:20 UTC
Fight in the same system they base their titans. Seriously, PL can't fight worth **** when their cyno's don't work. They got stomped by 5 man rupture/hurricane gangs basically 24/7 for the entire time they based in amamake. Oddly it took them a few months to figure out that probably wasn't the best place for them and left. I think they finally called it quits about 2 months ago. Place just hasn't been the same without their shiny loot.Sad

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Sevena Black
The Black Redemption
#6 - 2011-12-12 15:52:08 UTC
Their Rokhs use 425 mm

A possible tactic would be to get under their guns using HACS. Primary the scimmies then eat the rokhs. Make sure you get a warpin in the middle of their logistics or between logi and BS. With enough range the Roks will mess you up before you properly target anything.

Good luck!

PS: Kudos to PL for actually using ships other than the standard of the day.
tofucake prime
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2011-12-12 16:19:07 UTC
You could hire PL to shoot at themselves.
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-12-12 17:24:05 UTC
tofucake prime wrote:
You could hire PL to shoot at themselves.


BRILLIANT!!! Cool

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-12-12 17:56:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Garr Earthbender
OK. Now back in a helpfull way. Found the blog of Jude Lloyd aka Heretic Army CEO. He's been dealing with PL recently in Amamake.

Judelloyd blog

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
Raavanan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2011-12-12 18:34:29 UTC
Garr Earthbender wrote:
OK. Now back in a helpfull way. Found the blog of Jude Lloyd aka Heretic Army CEO. He's been dealing with PL recently in Amamake.

Judelloyd blog



My eyes!! seriously as good as the blog is, he has to change the font..
Indeterminacy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-12-12 19:01:36 UTC
never leaving amarr wrote:
Use supers


That will end well. For PL.
Pulgy
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-12-12 22:04:20 UTC
Whatever you can bring they'll bring more.
No range? No problem!   Join the Church of the Holy Blaster™ . A Hybrid religion.
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2011-12-12 22:15:17 UTC
Armor HAC's are a good counter to Rokhs

~
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-12-12 22:24:32 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
Armor HAC's are a good counter to Rokhs


K-Pop is a good counter to PL.
The Racketeer
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-12-12 22:30:28 UTC  |  Edited by: The Racketeer
The Rokh kill zones have optimal that can be as close as 22km and fall off to over 200km. The DPS varies a lot in that range depending on the traversal and the ships sensor boosters and tracking computers, witch take time to re-script. So basicly, you wanna be right on top or out of lock range.

Maybe more of a DPS fit BC\HIC gate camp fleet with ECM that is setup to jam off the RR. You are gonna have more pilots in your group that can make the fit compared to a HAC fleet and lose less ISK per ship loss doing it. That being said, it can be countered easy enough by dropping in a second fleet on your camp and pushing you in to their sniper rokhs on the other side.

If you wanna engage them off the gate you will need some good probers and inty pilots and a real good FC that has experience fighting against sniper fleets.

With an alliance of that size, experience, and those resources the only real option is to not give them the opportunity to gank targets in the first place.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-12-12 22:49:16 UTC
The Racketeer wrote:
sensor boosters and tracking computers witch take time to re-script.


WOT?

Re-Script is pretty instantaneous. Right Click, Select, Boom.
The Racketeer
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-12-12 23:06:34 UTC
Xolve wrote:
The Racketeer wrote:
sensor boosters and tracking computers witch take time to re-script.


WOT?

Re-Script is pretty instantaneous. Right Click, Select, Boom.


If they are fit to snipe with optimal out to 150km they have several of each, that takes several seconds to change out.

If you can come in on their falloff and let them take some pot shots and then warp to with-in 15km you gave yourself easy 8-10 seconds while they re-script and lock targets. If your in 500 DPS BCs you can get your locks, get your traversal up and kill 1 or 2 before they get their first shot off. By then, you will have your traversal up and be difficult to hit, have them bubbled, and have the upper hand.
Forum Fighter
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-12-13 01:49:41 UTC
Release a new FPS like BF3 and they won't even log on. Roll

Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil Hat™
nasty1
R-.A.-G.-E
#19 - 2011-12-13 15:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: nasty1
Black op's without jumping in BS

PS
Pick target's well
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-12-14 09:21:36 UTC
Well when we were dealing with PL, we didn't have the manpower to counter the Supers, so we used guerrilla warfare to drop their smaller stuff.

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