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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#401 - 2011-12-14 06:21:10 UTC
y'all is dumb

enjoy getting smoked by ships worth less than a tenth the cost of yours scrubs lmao

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Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#402 - 2011-12-14 06:38:46 UTC
Vernn wrote:
instagibs


I know this is off topic... but you play 40k don't you.

Also, yeah, sucks doesn't it? the whole **** THE MINERS thing is kinda old IMO, but, its the sandbox I guess.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#403 - 2011-12-14 06:50:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Thgil Goldcore wrote:
Vernn wrote:
instagibs


I know this is off topic... but you play 40k don't you.

Also, yeah, sucks doesn't it? the whole **** THE MINERS thing is kinda old IMO, but, its the sandbox I guess.



Don't misunderstand.

I know there are several posters in this thread that are just trying to get a rise out of miners, but most of us feel that miners perform an important function in EVE and certainly deserve to be able to pursue that goal.

I personally am a strong advocate of reworking the drone regions, among other things, to bring mining back to the profitability and important base of all industry that it was meant to be.

However I do not believe that they should be able to do so without the risk of loss, no matter where they choose to ply their trade. They need to be just as heads up and skilled at threat detection and evasion as the most hard core PVP pilot is at ambush, scouting, or fleet discipline.

Perfect safety would only serve to devalue their achievements in, and contribution to, the game.

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Banroh
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#404 - 2011-12-14 06:57:48 UTC
Get alts make them concorded and keep police sitting on your belt. Should cut out the delay.

What they do / can do / are doing, its within game mechanics. If you dont like the mechanics, there is suggestions thread.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#405 - 2011-12-14 08:17:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Did anyone make you warp to the same belt in the same ship and expect different results?
Like the first procurer loss was like paying a scrub tax and afterwards you like "whew well at least now I'm paid up!" then zipped back to the ice belt.
Alternatively, have you considered joining a group that offers non-Concord based protection?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#406 - 2011-12-14 09:00:49 UTC
Banroh wrote:
Get alts make them concorded and keep police sitting on your belt. Should cut out the delay.

What they do / can do / are doing, its within game mechanics. If you dont like the mechanics, there is suggestions thread.


That is considered an exploit, just so you know, doubly so when you're recycling alts.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#407 - 2011-12-14 09:03:48 UTC
Andski wrote:
Banroh wrote:
Get alts make them concorded and keep police sitting on your belt. Should cut out the delay.

What they do / can do / are doing, its within game mechanics. If you dont like the mechanics, there is suggestions thread.


That is considered an exploit, just so you know, doubly so when you're recycling alts.


Its not. Move along.. Been said milions of times and acknowledged by GMs and DEVs. ... but then again.. The ganker can use the same thing just destroy some other ship somewhere else in the system to move concord out of his target.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#408 - 2011-12-14 09:05:34 UTC
Andski wrote:
Banroh wrote:
Get alts make them concorded and keep police sitting on your belt. Should cut out the delay.

What they do / can do / are doing, its within game mechanics. If you dont like the mechanics, there is suggestions thread.


That is considered an exploit, just so you know, doubly so when you're recycling alts.


While I approve of your methods, Pots and Kettles, man. Your interdiction guide recommends clearing the belts in the same manner the miners "clear" concord from elsewhere to be in the belt.

So long as they don't recycle alts, seems to me like you just need to go alpha against a determined concord baiter.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
ariana ailith
Dukalin
#409 - 2011-12-14 09:08:47 UTC
Vernn wrote:

My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec.



So you admit you're being dumb enough to willingly bring hulks and macks into the same spot over and over and over again to be killed?
If you're killed there, maybe twice. It's clear you shouldn't be there.

Go mine some place else.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#410 - 2011-12-14 09:10:35 UTC
ariana ailith wrote:
Vernn wrote:

My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec.



So you admit you're being dumb enough to willingly bring hulks and macks into the same spot over and over and over again to be killed?
If you're killed there, maybe twice. It's clear you shouldn't be there.

Go mine some place else.


Retrievers

......Because of Kestrel.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#411 - 2011-12-14 09:13:05 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:


Retrievers

......Because of Kestrel.



Kestrels

Because of Retriever.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#412 - 2011-12-14 09:14:55 UTC
OP's first mistake is mining in ice in high sec as it's pretty much worthless compared to doing the same in 0.0
Second mistake is to keep mining ice on the same system/region/belt after first ganks
Third is coming to forums and starting a threadnaught about it, making sure you get ganked in the future as well.
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#413 - 2011-12-14 13:15:50 UTC
Tahna Rouspel wrote:
OP's right.

There should be consequences for ganking. People with negative security rating should not be allowed in highsec space.

Actions, consequences.

Deal with it, gankers.



Definately. Want to be a pesky piwate then there has to be a real punishment for it. Station and gate guns should shoot you in high sec on sight.

I have no issue with ganking but its to easy and there is no consequences of any worth right now.

There is no other solution given the use of alts means players can work around the current negative sec restrictions.
Iskawa Zebrut
Smoke to Train - Train to Smoke
#414 - 2011-12-14 15:04:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Iskawa Zebrut
Try not being AFK. Pay attention to your surroundings. Watch D-scan. Be ready to GTFO when you see him coming (be aligned at just under 75% speed to a station).

It is your own fault for not being prepared. Also, this is not classified as griefing as there is an in-game motivation: mucking with the ice / POS fuel market.

Or if you don't want to take responsibility for your own failure to defend yourself, there's always other professions in EVE to choose from. Or you could find those greener pastures of yours; no one here will miss you.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#415 - 2011-12-14 15:33:31 UTC
Iskawa Zebrut wrote:
Try not being AFK. Pay attention to your surroundings. Watch D-scan. Be ready to GTFO when you see him coming (be aligned at just under 75% speed to a station).

It is your own fault for not being prepared. Also, this is not classified as griefing as there is an in-game motivation: mucking with the ice / POS fuel market.

Or if you don't want to take responsibility for your own failure to defend yourself, there's always other professions in EVE to choose from. Or you could find those greener pastures of yours; no one here will miss you.


All cool, but move to another "role" is better and more profitable.
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#416 - 2011-12-14 15:51:33 UTC
I always wondered, how do people pronounce 'instagib' ?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#417 - 2011-12-14 15:55:22 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
I always wondered, how do people pronounce 'instagib' ?


It's pronounced "GO FOR THE EYES, BOO, GO FOR THE EYES, RAAARGH"

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#418 - 2011-12-14 15:56:38 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Kiandoshia wrote:
I always wondered, how do people pronounce 'instagib' ?


It's pronounced "GO FOR THE EYES, BOO, GO FOR THE EYES, RAAARGH"


I love Baldurs Gate series..
Minsk is an ******* hero. Or was his name Minsk ??
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#419 - 2011-12-14 16:00:59 UTC
Guys this fire keeps burning me when I put my hand in it.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#420 - 2011-12-14 16:10:34 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Kiandoshia wrote:
I always wondered, how do people pronounce 'instagib' ?


It's pronounced "GO FOR THE EYES, BOO, GO FOR THE EYES, RAAARGH"


I love Baldurs Gate series..
Minsk is an ******* hero. Or was his name Minsk ??


Boo must have his exercise, lest he bite us all in hard to reach places.

Minsc and Boo stand ready.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon