EVE General Discussion

I'm glad to see this question come up. Basically it gets asked a lot but threads are very quickly locked because it has been talked to death, years ago. However I think years have gone by, Eve is evolving, and it's important that people who want this (like me) keep asking the question.

I think the answer lies in the decisions of the past as well as the current and future environment. Basically, after the Captains Quarters were introduced and the various debacles followed, CCP shifted from a process of innovating the game (adding whole areas such as WH space and entirely new types of ships and gameplay as well as the CQ) to one of modest innovation and massive refinement. Basically, people wanted CCP to quit introducing new stuff and fix stuff that was broke. CCP has been doing that for years now, and will continue to do so for about another year. Further, and I know CCP doesn't like us to mention other games, but it's undeniable that some pretty stiff competition will be showing up in 2015-2017. This competition does not have an aversion to avatar based play. So those who say the door to the CQ will never open, I say you are wrong. Here's what I think will happen.

This year and most of 2015 will show absolutely no attention to avatar play at all. We will continue to get modest innovations (blighted weapons, T3 destroyers) and heavy concentration on repair, update, and balance (ship changes, graphics and UI improvements, sov fixes, corp/alliance fixes) ultimately preparing the game for the player-built star gates which will be the sign of what I call 'Eve 2.0.' Eve 2.0 proper will be an Eve where players can open new areas of space through a range of different types of stargates, some may be permanent routes to WH space, some being gates from one part of New Eden to another, some being gates to new systems or constellations randomly generated to provide various safe zones and points of conflict for people wanting to access them, and some gates will lead to new constellations and regions designed by CCP that will include unique types of PvE content. I think the player built gate thing is going to be a really big deal and will change Eve. But that's just Eve. Just about when Eve 2.0 hits one other game will have had a bit of time to get off the ground and another will just be hitting the market. Eve may have a rocky period for a bit before and right at Eve 2.0 as our players try out other games. However, Eve 2.0 is not going to be just Eve.

In 2015 and 2016 Project Legion and Eve Valkyrie will hit the market. Particularly with Legion there CCP has said that there will be non-combat 'hangout' areas for players to interact. These CCP games will come out and take on a life of their own, but certainly what CCP has that the competition doesn't have is a well-developed universe with an established game that already has a history of ambitious expansion and interaction ala DUST (didn't quite work but was a grand learning experience). Certainly Legion and Valkyrie will evolve towards integrating with Eve. Fanfest already mentioned plans to move to an integrated sign in where you can log in on the launcher and select an Eve character or Valkyrie or Legion character. Many seemed to understand that the day would come where you could log in to your Eve character and play Legion or Valkyrie. Certainly the games will integrate and technology from the other games will be ported to Eve, and avatar play will be reborn.

Sorry for the wall of text. The short answer is, the door to the CQ will open in 2017, after you've been playing Legion and Valkyrie for a while.

That's my prediction.

Hmm... the line breaks, the elipses... are you Sol's brother?

redacted, may not of been talking to me, as I said bored at work

I disagree on one point. If done correctly, a 'New Eden' game (Eve, dust/legion, valk, 4th game) could be a game changer.

And by the looks of it, ED and SC will be F2P so it would be very simple to play both or all three with no issues.

And I see eve dropping in some subs for maybe a few months, till people who have ran the same landing sequence 30000 times gets bored and comes back home. They ALWAYS come back to eve. even if its for one more spurt to go 'yea this still sucks' the come back.

As long as any in-station interaction between avatars is exactly like playing Rust.. im all for it.



Jita 4-4... Come for the trading, stay for the naked men killing each other with rocks.

I agree with that WIS should mean that stations aren't necessarily safe anymore.

As for the other games I'm not leaving to play them. SC is a carebear paradise in the making. ED looks good but I'm getting too old to be good at twitch based dog fighting.

It is a fact though that CCP are scared of the avatar based competition. Don't we all remember those terrible trailers we had in the run up to X afterbirth... hardly a space ship in sight.

I was disgusted by the fact that we had the world's premier sci fi mmo competing head to head with an offline game by shunting out ****** cinematic trailers that for the first time ever did not depict real in game footage. Remember when we pod view suddenly become cockpit view?

it disgusted me.

or better yet, my creepy minmatar chick (you free them once and never hear the end of it)

People may be laughing and raging about space barbies, but those examples you gave do prove theyre is money is the concpt of what CCP had with the WiS project. Aparently a spacegame with avatars is now a few years later not as unfeesible as some l33tsies made it out to be and i know a few of thos who were opposed to Wis who now have heavily invested in the "pretty picture space ship webshop with a hangar game at a later date"

But i guess scamming is allowed and they were just doubling CP's isk :/

Fine.... go pew pew yer reposed ******* off....pew pew....

Even kicking my arms around a station slipping on the blood might be more interesting than selecting orbit, activate weapon, activate yawn, watch mono coloured red rainbow dance.

LISTEN TO AURA, EVEN SHE IS BORED.

It's not even pew worthy and yet we pew. That is dedication.
Eve Dogfights Utube video says it all.
Yes Valkyrie when integrated with the game and Dust when integrated with the game could be neato. Waiting for when I can play it on my antiquated lap top.

And yes a large universe of space baubles is no small feat, but if you can't touch the baubles .... can't land on them or explore them...just dock, purchase, undock....

(climbs the highest soapbox and shouts)
If the pew is not pew and there is little else but pew mine or make do we only play this game only because our avatar pic's somehow all come out looking like glossy alt culture fashion mag cover shots.

Not to froth uncool perpetual newbie questions upon y'all...... line break...... line break....... with dubious grammar to boot pronounced in a Canadian accent but hey Cool Reposie ,,,, you did.....ummm.....line break.....take the time to answer......
so is that like..... denial?

It's just in CCP's interest to add interest..... pretty sure the avatar inter action in Eve will reflect the relative maturity of the game compared to others..... minus the kinda reactive forum feedback trying to out sardonic one another.....

Truhuhuollin

AND allow our avatar to lie on the bed.