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Multiple Toon Training - Monthly fee increase.

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DiamondDave Maximus
Latter Day Saints
#1 - 2014-10-27 19:33:29 UTC  |  Edited by: DiamondDave Maximus
Just a suggestion.

CCP should consider allowing toons on a given account to be trained simultaneously for additional monthly fee. Of course I'm not talking about in addition to subscription fee.

For example, assuming a monthly billing cycle.

14.95 - Main account (training)
19.95 - Train a second toon.
24.95 - Train all toons on account.

Still allow only a single log on per account, but allow training of two or all toons.

I just made up the prices as an example.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#2 - 2014-10-27 19:43:30 UTC

CCP already allows you to train 2 or 3 characters at the same time on an account. It costs you a PLEX per extra toon.
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-10-27 19:54:31 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

CCP already allows you to train 2 or 3 characters at the same time on an account. It costs you a PLEX per extra toon.


While it is indeed available, I'd like to pay double subscription for my one account to train 2 character on it without the hassle of grinding for the required PLEX.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#4 - 2014-10-27 20:16:56 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

CCP already allows you to train 2 or 3 characters at the same time on an account. It costs you a PLEX per extra toon.


While it is indeed available, I'd like to pay double subscription for my one account to train 2 character on it without the hassle of grinding for the required PLEX.


You can buy plex for RL money, you don't have to grind for it.
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2014-10-27 20:25:31 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

CCP already allows you to train 2 or 3 characters at the same time on an account. It costs you a PLEX per extra toon.


While it is indeed available, I'd like to pay double subscription for my one account to train 2 character on it without the hassle of grinding for the required PLEX.


You can buy plex for RL money, you don't have to grind for it.


And it cost more than what I pay for my recurring subscription hence another hassle instead of just letting them bill my CC more automatically. I'm just saying i'd like the option tho, not that it's bad that it does not exist now.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
Transgress
#6 - 2014-10-27 20:27:03 UTC
Account management page wrote:
Price: €19.95 or 1 PLEX for 30 days of activation.
Wolf Incaelum
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-10-27 20:27:13 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
[quote=Gizznitt Malikite]
CCP already allows you to train 2 or 3 characters at the same time on an account. It costs you a PLEX per extra toon.


While it is indeed available, I'd like to pay double subscription for my one account to train 2 character on it without the hassle of grinding for the required PLEX.


This.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#8 - 2014-10-27 20:34:45 UTC
This idea is too P2W for my tastes and reeks of:

14.95 "Standard Account" - 1 toon per account training.
19.95 "Upgraded Account" - 2 toons per account training.+5% boost to SP
24.95 "Premium Account" - 3 toons per account training + 15% boost to SP


soooooo how about this.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

xgrishax
Phoenix Wing Inc.
#9 - 2014-10-27 20:50:57 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This idea is too P2W for my tastes and reeks of:

14.95 "Standard Account" - 1 toon per account training.
19.95 "Upgraded Account" - 2 toons per account training.+5% boost to SP
24.95 "Premium Account" - 3 toons per account training + 15% boost to SP


soooooo how about this.


I think you're jumping to conclusions here. You can already do this via PLEX, so nothing changes. What will change is how that PLEX is obtained, and the cost of it. Instead of paying $20 for a PLEX (or a package of them for less, but still more than $15 each) he essentially subscribes again. One can already do this with a second account AND multi-box. It would actually offer slightly more incentive not to multi-box should you want a trained alt.

All it really does is circumvent the need for a PLEX to be used, and save $5 a month if you buy them individually/subscribe monthly.

You're the one who added the Skill Point boost and this idea can be implemented without it. Having an advantage because you have a lot of money (and you do) is not the same as "Pay 2 Win". Clearly, more money can get you more, but you're not buying skill points or anything a PLEX doesn't already do - you're just circumventing the need for the PLEX itself. That's quite a knee-jerk reaction.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#10 - 2014-10-27 21:39:56 UTC

Watch for sales. Often Amazon and/or CCP have PLEX sales that allow you to buy PLEX at a better value. I agree this isn't as convenient as an auto-bill CC option.

Perhaps if you simply said:

14.95 Standard Account
29.90 Upgraded Account
44.85 Premium Account,

Rather than bundling in a "discount" for the extra training, I'd be more receptive.
Carmen Electra
Row Row Fight the Power
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#11 - 2014-10-27 22:22:25 UTC
Gizznitt Malikite wrote:

Watch for sales. Often Amazon and/or CCP have PLEX sales that allow you to buy PLEX at a better value. I agree this isn't as convenient as an auto-bill CC option.

Perhaps if you simply said:

14.95 Standard Account
29.90 Upgraded Account
44.85 Premium Account,

Rather than bundling in a "discount" for the extra training, I'd be more receptive.

I for one appreciate that CCP offers a "discount" (depending on how you look at it) when players sub their accounts.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#12 - 2014-10-28 00:11:53 UTC
I would much rather see this implemented at 2.50USD increase /character (and/or equivalent ) of the PLEX premium over subscription, rather than being actually discounted. In my mind, the 5USD premium for a plex over a straight subscription is a tradeoff for the flexibility of the ingame plex item.

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#13 - 2014-10-28 01:10:00 UTC
I like the idea of paying for MCT through a subscription. If I pay for my subs for more than a month at a time, I can pay a bit less in the long run, but it insures that CCP has my money, and it's nice when loyalty to a product is rewarded. Honestly, worring about PLEX every month is a hassle that I'd rather make automated. That's why I sub. , That's why I do on'line banking rather mail in a check every month. That's why I have direct deposit.

I'm not saying to remove the PLEX payment method, but rather link MCT directly to the subs for those of us so inclined. This won't hurt anyone in game. I was going to buy a PLEX out of game anyway.

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DiamondDave Maximus
Latter Day Saints
#14 - 2014-11-03 21:18:09 UTC
I don't want to pay an ADDITIONAL 20 bucks for a plex, to train a 2nd character, I want to subscribe and pay a slightly higher fee for the ability to do so. (19.95/month instead of 14.95, for example)

I understand the MCT with Plex, but that is what I dont want.

Anyway, I think more accounts would pay a subscription increase knowing they can train two or three toons.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dave
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2014-11-03 23:07:55 UTC
You can also buy MCT with Aurum from the NES. And MCT is cheaper on the market than straight Plex last I looked also.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-11-05 09:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Adrie Atticus
DiamondDave Maximus wrote:
I don't want to pay an ADDITIONAL 20 bucks for a plex, to train a 2nd character, I want to subscribe and pay a slightly higher fee for the ability to do so. (19.95/month instead of 14.95, for example)

I understand the MCT with Plex, but that is what I dont want.

Anyway, I think more accounts would pay a subscription increase knowing they can train two or three toons.

Just my opinion.

Thanks for the feedback.

Dave


Your subscription covers one account with one active character training on it. That gives you a maximum of SP per hour you can attain. Grating a second toon at 75% discount is a bit thick, there's already a 50% reduction for a secondary account.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-11-05 10:05:43 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This idea is too P2W for my tastes and reeks of:

14.95 "Standard Account" - 1 toon per account training.
19.95 "Upgraded Account" - 2 toons per account training.+5% boost to SP
24.95 "Premium Account" - 3 toons per account training + 15% boost to SP


soooooo how about this.


no SP boost use implants.

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