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Beta feature: Multi Sell

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#61 - 2014-10-27 17:11:10 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Is there any way the "No Match" items could be listed in a single window, just like the sold items are? Things like this are a bit of a bugger: http://puu.sh/cpco9/4820c71334.jpg

If they were listed like the Items Sold window, it would be significantly cleaner when selling a large number of items.


this will be fixed Big smile

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#62 - 2014-10-27 17:12:00 UTC
I've added the percentage next to the delta icon and indicator of how many remaining market orders you have

https://twitter.com/CCP_Punkturis/status/526782920074481664

you can try it out after next Singularity update!

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Soden Rah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2014-10-27 18:07:47 UTC
Shiny. Thank you.

CCP Punkturis wrote:
I've added the percentage next to the delta icon and indicator of how many remaining market orders you have

https://twitter.com/CCP_Punkturis/status/526782920074481664

you can try it out after next Singularity update!

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#64 - 2014-10-27 18:36:26 UTC
i am not sure if you can generate the tooltips dynamically from market data. but maybe they could show the last 5 buy/sell orders if you hover over the item in the list?

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Serinas Setzuni
#65 - 2014-10-27 19:17:28 UTC
If it's at all possible... If I have only a single item to put on the market, can I continue to use the old single-sell window? (This should be fairly easy, just trick the multi-sell window to look like the old one if item count is less than 2.) For the way I've been using the market for years, this multi-sell just simply doesn't work and adds far too much... 'clutter' to the UI of just selling one thing. If not, I'll try to get used to it...
Soden Rah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-10-27 23:51:00 UTC
Ok still looking at [I think] the original build. Version: 8.49.838694



A) The number of items to sell column is too small. it's fine for 3 digit numbers but if your selling mins or ammo ect then the number doesn't fit in. It needs to be sizeable/auto-size for larger numbers. Or at the very least have the tool tip give the quantity for the item you are hovering over rather than then column heading because I don't need a tool tip for every entry telling me what the column is for. [particularly if there is a column heading... which leads too...]

B) I see a list of columns of items and I get the urge to sort them*. Soooo
Ability to sort by each column.
Alphabetically for names
and by size for other columns...
So that I could sort to bring the items of largest [or smallest] total or individual value to the top quickly.
Including sorting by percentage over/under average [when the next build comes along and that's added]
Ideally by clicking on a column heading as that is universally understood UI functionality.

*I'm weird, get over it

C) Ability to turn off isk cent amounts ... It's so much easier to tell at a glance what order of magnitude I am dealing with without isk cents stuck on.
Or at the least, [and this could go game wide] make the isk cents smaller and/or darker than the rest of the number.
I really can't do it properly here, but something kinda like this.... [with the cent numbers also being smaller and much darker grey]

Old: 33,306,098.28
New: 33,306,098.28

So you can see the isk cent values but they don't draw the eye away from the main number.
This has annoyed me about eve since day one.
EDIT: No it really doesn't work properly here on the forums but hopefully you get what I mean.


D) I can drag and drop items INTO the sell items list.... Now It feels natural to be able to drag items OUT of the list as well...
Pink kittens will be supplied if this can be made to be so...

E) As I can drop items anywhere in the window to drag and drop them I don't need a big banner across the top telling me that I can do so.
In fact my fist thought on seeing the banner was that I could ONLY drop items into that box at the top.

I recommend ditching the box, and replacing it with column headings. And putting in a tool-tip for hovering over a blank bit of the sell window which says that you can drag items into this window [or similar].

That way you have less wasted space, still have the hint so people learn that you can drag and drop, and gain sort functionality through the column headings... Spreadsheets in space FTW!

F) My clicking isn't too accurate... Please make the Sell | Cancel buttons a bit bigger... and put them on opposite sides of the window. aligned to opposite edges.
This way I won't spend 10 minutes finenessing my order and then cancel it by accident.
Particularly an issue for anyone using a laptop with these crappy touchpads which have touch sensitivity on the buttons.
It's so easy to miss-click on those.

G) An option to turn off the item icon, and just have a more condensed text list. Useful when selling long lists of items that don't fit on the screen. You can see more of your orders at once.

H) I have to pay a Broker's Fee!!! AND a Sales tax !!! That's outrageous... If only there were skills that could make them smaller...

Might want to run it past the new player experience guys as to whether a tool-tip for the brokers fee and sales tax hinting that these could be reduced if you trained the right skills would be in line with their goals of making eve more transparent to new players.... This idea could be expanded upon if successful.

I) I have too much isk to test this... but if I don't have enough isk on hand to cover the brokers fee + Sales tax... does it tell me before I try to sell??



That's probably enough for now.... You can still count these on one hand with a finger to spare.... :)

well I can....
Soden Rah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-10-29 22:55:28 UTC
Update for build 8.49.839508 [New build with % over under]

Running SiSi on Fixed Window 1920*1200 24" with UI scaling @ 90% [all effects to high]

i) The remaining market orders is in, awesome, thank you.
However the functionality now seems to be that if I select more items than I have outstanding sell order slots it
silently drops the excess items from the list.
I would like it to at least tell me that this has happened, because it's not necessarily obvious.
Preferably it should load all the items I select but tell me that I need to loose X number of items to get under my
sell order limit. thus allowing me to choose what gets dumped, and not have it just take the first X items and then dump the rest.

ii) I like the % over/under readout for the average module prices... but the numbers and location of the decimal point is
a bit hard to read. At least at my resolution/UI scaling. I would round it to the nearest percent and ditch the decimal.
I think that having the decimal is spurious precision that is unnecessary, particularly as you are tight for space.
I think there are fonts that are more legible at this scale than the one used.... But that's a whole other topic.

You could make the numbers bigger and still retain the Up and down arrows by doing something like this...

http://snag.gy/ehF3h.jpg

Certainly if you keep the icons you have the vertical space to do that with larger numbers.


Otherwise, same as before.
zar dada
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#68 - 2014-10-31 18:08:17 UTC
Multisell not working, though it worked a few days ago

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991 Funaila
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2014-11-06 23:52:05 UTC
ccp if you could please make little more space for prices in new multi sell window, that all digits of a price will be showed when you put biger price, now i can see only ten digits and dot, so you can see full frices only smaller than hundred million, that is 10 digits and dot, i think 14 digits and dot, will be fine

immediate sell bug - now if you make max all your market orders (sell/buy orders), you can't sell items in immediate mode, you can avoid this by making one less order but for beginners this could be confusing