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C3-C5 PVE Calculator

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Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-10-24 10:40:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Choridon Saissore
So I'm currently in the process of creating calculator that will give users a fairly accurate idea how long said sites will take / how much money will be earned, what the Isk / hr will be. It also features adding multiple ships & there by redoing the calculations to fit the speed of which the collective ships can complete any given site.

Essentially this is a solo / group Carebear calculator for farming without capital escalations, which is currently focused around Marauders, but I would love to add more ships in the near future.

For this to work however I will need a lot of data about how long any given ship in the calculator would take to run any of the available sites. This of course is under the assumption that the ship does not have to warp out etc. etc..
Therefore I'd like to ask if anyone would help me collect this data, and in return gain personal access to the calculator for future use?

Any suggestions / ideas, please don't hesitate to throw them at me :)

Edit: All calculations are complete, so currently its just a matter of gathering data for each individual class wormhole & plug it in :)

Paladin Class 3 Complete
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#2 - 2014-10-24 11:27:17 UTC
would suggest also add asteroid mining calculator depending on ore site type, asteroid qualntity and how many ships involved in mining same to gas mining gas type , amount of gas how many ships mining it.
Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-10-24 11:51:26 UTC
Amak Boma wrote:
would suggest also add asteroid mining calculator depending on ore site type, asteroid qualntity and how many ships involved in mining same to gas mining gas type , amount of gas how many ships mining it.


Honestly I won't add gas / ore simply due to the fact that (in my opinion) its simply not worth the effort :)

But thanks for the idea none the less :)
Levina Windstar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-10-24 12:23:06 UTC
Hi, good idea Big smile

1. Make sure the data you get is post Hyperion ("New" RR boost for preserver cause the ISK/hr to be a bit lower for some sites)
2. Make sure the site was done solo and without any boost (no command ship, no boosters, no implants...)
3. Make sure the site was done in a WH without any effects
4. Make sure the ISK/hr you do is per site per WH cause data/relic site are normally harder than combat site + sometime there is that 1 combat site type that is harder than the other too
5. Marauders is good for solo in C4 and C5 but would be nice to have T3 data for C3
6. Good luck with this Big smile

I'm living in a C4 with C3 static but we always do sites in group so I'm afraid I won't be able to help there Sad

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Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-10-24 12:46:31 UTC
Levina Windstar wrote:
Hi, good idea Big smile

1. Make sure the data you get is post Hyperion ("New" RR boost for preserver cause the ISK/hr to be a bit lower for some sites)
2. Make sure the site was done solo and without any boost (no command ship, no boosters, no implants...)
3. Make sure the site was done in a WH without any effects
4. Make sure the ISK/hr you do is per site per WH cause data/relic site are normally harder than combat site + sometime there is that 1 combat site type that is harder than the other too
5. Marauders is good for solo in C4 and C5 but would be nice to have T3 data for C3
6. Good luck with this Big smile

I'm living in a C4 with C3 static but we always do sites in group so I'm afraid I won't be able to help there Sad



1. Have only been collecting data pos Hyperion so thats covered :)

2. Sites need to be done solo else the data for each individual ship would never be correct so also covered :)

3. This is also covered.

4. The calculations for Data / relic sites are the same as normal sites, as the calculator only takes in account for blue loot, since having some "average" on ribbons would just not be accurate enough.

5. I have initially done marauders in all the classes & will be using Paladin, Golem and Vargur since these are the ones best at projecting their dmg & kronos is just bad :). The adition ot T3 data could be done but this is were id love for someone else to do it, since running 40 sites per added ship is kinda of a pain for any single person :( .

6. Thank you ^^
RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#6 - 2014-10-24 13:45:31 UTC
Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-10-24 13:50:13 UTC



hmm no..

It will be a Easy to use spreadsheet, where you can add w/e ship you are using, how many of each individual ship you use, add the quantity of each site & it will give you numbers on value, isk/hr isk per person (assuming even split), the time each individual site will take along with how long your bearing session will take in total.
RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#8 - 2014-10-24 14:07:22 UTC
dont u think that info "ship using" is quite useless? too many factors to count such as: skills, fits, personal pilot skills on his ability actually do his damage ( misslile tengu as simple example, a lot of ppl shoot till target explode, without noticing that last pack of missiles doing no damage cose of target dead of the volley before)
tl;dr totally stupid idea...
Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-24 14:19:16 UTC
RudinV wrote:
dont u think that info "ship using" is quite useless? too many factors to count such as: skills, fits, personal pilot skills on his ability actually do his damage ( misslile tengu as simple example, a lot of ppl shoot till target explode, without noticing that last pack of missiles doing no damage cose of target dead of the volley before)
tl;dr totally stupid idea...


This is why there will be Suggested fittings to each ship since the calculator centers around solo farming while just haven't the capability of adding more "solo" ships to the calculations. Also obviously skill has an effect, which is why the calculators "time" should be thought of as no more than a well calculated guess, to give the user a good "idea" how long the set session is gonna take.

Furthermore, all calculations are under the assumption of perfect mathematical conditions ie. application of dps, system effects etc.. meaning obviously its not going to be 100% dead on which is why as stated above its just a well calculated guess / hint. :)
Ruffio Sepico
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
#10 - 2014-10-24 16:57:32 UTC
Choridon Saissore wrote:
So I'm currently in the process of creating calculator that will give users a fairly accurate idea how long said sites will take / how much money will be earned, what the Isk / hr will be. It also features adding multiple ships & there by redoing the calculations to fit the speed of which the collective ships can complete any given site.

Essentially this is a solo / group Carebear calculator for farming without capital escalations, which is currently focused around Marauders, but I would love to add more ships in the near future.

For this to work however I will need a lot of data about how long any given ship in the calculator would take to run any of the available sites. This of course is under the assumption that the ship does not have to warp out etc. etc..
Therefore I'd like to ask if anyone would help me collect this data, and in return gain personal access to the calculator for future use?

Any suggestions / ideas, please don't hesitate to throw them at me :)

Edit: All calculations are complete, so currently its just a matter of gathering data for each individual class wormhole & plug it in :)



Isn't isk/hr rather pointless for wspace? You have a limited number of sites in your own home system. Roll your static is all about what you end up find on the other side. And how long someone use to run a site deppend great on the persons ship, fit, skills and experience too.

Good luck with your tool though -)

Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-10-24 17:45:59 UTC
Ruffio Sepico wrote:


Isn't isk/hr rather pointless for wspace? You have a limited number of sites in your own home system. Roll your static is all about what you end up find on the other side. And how long someone use to run a site deppend great on the persons ship, fit, skills and experience too.

Good luck with your tool though -)



Well depends on how many sites you intend to run :) the calculator also shows how much you will atually make for the sites you've inserted :)
Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-10-27 16:53:43 UTC
Still searching for data gatherers!

Be the first to get your hands on this awesome caldulator! :))
Ziirn
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#13 - 2014-10-27 17:00:50 UTC
So much hate.. Can you guys please tell me what site is best to run solo in C5, C4 and C3 space off your head and how long it would theoretical take with a Vargur, off your head without looking it up?
If you can awesome for you! Since I wouldn't be able to.

This "tool" would allow me to look it up and gain info on something I do not know about and give me a hint. Not 100% fact but its still better than not knowing at all.
Choridon Saissore
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-29 17:20:21 UTC
In good news blue loot is becomming more valuable! :)

This means better isk / hr thus making C3-4 space even more worth farming! :D

For info:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5161211

Neural Network analyzer 50.000--> 200.000
Data Library 200.000--> 500.000

This will of course also be implemented into the calculator for proper values!

Remember still need more ppl to gather data! :)