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T2 BPC market and contracts - How to figure out prices

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Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#1 - 2014-10-27 15:53:00 UTC
I recently started to produce some good T2 (and T1) BPC for hulls, and on study of the contracts out each day I have roughly the idea of how this might work, but this is theory... so I am asking the people that practice it - how do you calculate your price for you contract to sell your BPCs?

Conceptions I have (which may or many not be correct):
1. price out of a particular hub and use that as your base for comparison.
2. watch for low-balling, if you can pick them up and remark them to market normal.
3. that there is a set price for each set outcome of inputs that create a BPC so it is easy to know how your BPC will stat out, it's simply will you invent it or not, once done, it's worth x as the market standard.

So, anyway, hope you all can help, would like to get into this as a passive ISKcome for the 6th year in EVE.
Aluka 7th
#2 - 2014-10-29 14:14:25 UTC
I have 3 price levels.
Liquidation price - when competition is to tough and I want to get out of that BPC market. Calculated as pure invention cost (datacores+decryptors+fees) without spent time.
Optimal price - Liquidation price + extra money I think its fair to earn per hour
Maximum price - Usually defined through demand and amount of materials my customer will save using my print.

Idea is to sell fast so usually I'm around optimal price.
Square PI
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-10-30 13:35:26 UTC
You have two metrics to watch:

1.) what did it cost you to make the BPC.
2.) How much profit can someone make (with perfect skills) out of this BPC.

The value of the BPC is somwhere between these two points.


If the cost to make the items plus the cost for the BPC is higher than the ISK he get for selling the stuff, its a bad deal for the builder.
And if you pay more than you get for the BPC it is a bad deal for you.

Sure, you can always find someone who might buy the BPC for some insane price, because they dont know better. But this is not the norm. And you dont sell enough BPC if its to set to high.


When i was selling T2 BPC i only used stuff where no T2 BPO exist. And i used 50% to 85% of the production marge as price. This gave the builder enough room to make profit and me enough gain from each BPC.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#4 - 2014-10-30 18:38:24 UTC
I sell T2 BPCs as well. Mostly because I can and happen to enjoy exploration (probing). I'm by no means an authority on T2 BPC trade. I simply compare contracts, with a special eye for stats comparable to my own BPCs. If I don't have experience selling the particular BPC I will start with a high price and lower it when the contract expires. At some point I find the "sweet spot" in between market volume and unit price. I also let experience guide me moreso then current market prices if I sold that BPC before. After all the market for these isn't that big, a lot of manufacturers invent their own stuff and the materials required are often too much of a hassle to spreadsheet for the non-indy inclined singular player.