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Jenn aSide

Worthless Carebears

The Initiative.

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#21 - 2014-10-27 14:16:04 UTC

Robert Caldera wrote:

a lame use of a carrier in 0.0 is putting it on a pos shield edge and assigning fighters to another ship for omgwtfbbq dps. but one should be careful with this kind of fun, the carrier could quickly become target for a hotdrop, has to be able to quickly re-enter pos forcefield.

What is this, 2009 (prior to the fighter nerf)?

Someone hasn't been to null lately, using assigned fighters sucks compared to having the carrier on grid where the fighters actually get bonuses from the carrier (unless you use a ship with mutiple target painters, but the you still have the tracking issues and the fighters need to move and orbit). Unbonused fighters (which is what assigned fighters are) suck against anything that isn't a battleship. If you are ratting in a BS, regular heavy drones (or mixed Gecko flights, in angel space 2 geckos, 2 Valkyries and a warrior is magic) are much much better.

Jean Luc Lemmont

Carebears on Fire

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#22 - 2014-10-27 14:24:34 UTC

ShahFluffers wrote:

If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.

The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

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It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.

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Jeremy Allign Methods of the Future Likes received: 2	#23 - 2014-10-27 15:01:55 UTC 2 Nobax wrote: Do this: https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/ That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures!

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ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Likes received: 11,726	#24 - 2014-10-27 15:15:01 UTC 2 Nobax wrote: Do this: https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/ Madre de dios. How did you Veterans start?

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Ralph King-Griffin New Eden Tech Support Likes received: 21,564	#25 - 2014-10-27 15:18:47 UTC 1 Nobax wrote: Do this: https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/ bookmarking that for a good laugh with the corpies later Murderers of Negotiable Motivations =]\|[=

Jean Luc Lemmont

Carebears on Fire

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#26 - 2014-10-27 15:28:28 UTC

Jeremy Allign wrote:

Nobax wrote:

Do this:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/

That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures!

They were putting that carrier out of it's misery.
A carrier which has been reduced to mining is obviously well past its prime. It is possible that its docking bays are damanged in some fashion that only allowed mining drones - or perhaps a critical software patch in the lauch command system had not been done. Whatever the case, it is obvious that this once proud warrior had seen better days.

Sleep well, old one. You shall be missed.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

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It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.

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Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge Likes received: 23,523	#27 - 2014-10-27 15:38:07 UTC 2 Nobax wrote: Do this: https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/ Is.. that.. a ... cloaky... mining.. probing.. data/relic running.. t1 fit... Thanatos... in a WH.... I don't think there is any way to carebear harder than this. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*


Jenn aSide Worthless Carebears The Initiative. Likes received: 16,192	#28 - 2014-10-27 15:46:54 UTC 2 Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Is.. that.. a ... cloaky... mining.. probing.. data/relic running.. t1 fit... Thanatos... in a WH.... I don't think there is any way to carebear harder than this. You'd honestly be surprised lol.

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The Troll Bridge

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#29 - 2014-10-27 16:18:01 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Is.. that.. a ... cloaky... mining.. probing.. data/relic running.. t1 fit... Thanatos... in a WH....

I don't think there is any way to carebear harder than this.

You'd honestly be surprised lol.

Not really. This is the kind of thing id expect to see everywhere if caps were allowed back in highsec...

Mining carriers... mining carriers everywhere.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Frostys Virpio

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#30 - 2014-10-27 16:27:18 UTC

Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.

The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving.

I tell these people they will get my arms to help as long as they stop being cheap and rent a damn cube truck.

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

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#31 - 2014-10-27 16:29:12 UTC

Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.

The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving.

This will only become more important after moving becomes much more...

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Robert Caldera

Caldera Trading and Investment

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#32 - 2014-10-27 19:10:25 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

no ist 2014 post-buff fighters, which will even face**** small stuff once tackled without putting the capital at any real risk if careful.

Jenn aSide

Worthless Carebears

The Initiative.

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#33 - 2014-10-27 20:02:22 UTC

Robert Caldera wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

no ist 2014 post-buff fighters, which will even face**** small stuff once tackled without putting the capital at any real risk if careful.

Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier pilot drone skills still don't matter to off grid assigned fighters) and assigned fighters don't get buffs from drone mods on an off grid carrier. With their base damage reduced (to compensate for the fact that they now use the pilots drones skilsl while on grid), pre '2014" fighters (which sucked) were better for ratting.

You can test this yourself (we i did, extensively), take any BS that has 125 bandwidth (or even 100, in the case of the machariel, even less with the rattlesnake), use it with 5 heavy drones, then 2 geckos, 2 medium and 1 light and then try the same thing with assigned fighters. Even against webbed targets (webs from a Vindicator) the fighters come in dead last in terms of isk/hr.

Tested over several days post patch with Vindicator, Machariel and (for kicks) a Rattlesnake (a single gecko from a rattlesnake puts fighters to shame isk wise). That's what you don't see a whole bunch of assigned fighters, if a person can dual box and has a carrier, he's much better off being on grid manually directing them (or going with 7 geckos + 2 mediums and a light and then assigning them to assist the shooter ship, or guard if the shooter ship is using EWAR).

Like i said, you must be talking about 2009, assigning fighters nowadays is the least efficient thing you can do now

J'Poll

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

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#34 - 2014-10-27 20:16:42 UTC

Jeremy Allign wrote:

Nobax wrote:

Do this:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/

That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures!

Now, that is what I call Karma.

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Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,926	#35 - 2014-10-27 22:46:03 UTC Actually you could probably use one on autopilot to move random cr@p around hisec. People would probably think it was a bait ship and leave it alone.

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Garandras The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 259	#36 - 2014-10-27 23:52:27 UTC The reason for a solo pilot to use a carrier... is to carry things for you when you get bored of a particular region and feel like seeing if the grass is less blobier over there

Mark Hadden

Imperial Academy

Amarr Empire

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#37 - 2014-10-28 09:19:00 UTC | Edited by: Mark Hadden

Jenn aSide wrote:

Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier ....

holy ****, even if you're right about fighter bonuses, assign your fighters to kiting interceptor and you will be killing stuff with almost absolute safety you wouldnt be killing otherwise. seen people doing that, a viable tactic for risk averse pvp.

Jenn aSide

Worthless Carebears

The Initiative.

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#38 - 2014-10-28 12:09:11 UTC

Mark Hadden wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier ....

Talkin about shooting fake space pirates for isk here. Damn pvp (in a damn pvp game) always intruding on a brother trying to get that isk.


Mark Hadden Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 79	#39 - 2014-10-28 13:02:17 UTC wat?

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Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord Likes received: 2,707	#40 - 2014-10-28 15:45:14 UTC Solo carriers can be a big part of a major part of Eve design, "isk sink".