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PryMary
nul-li-fy
#1 - 2014-10-26 15:31:43 UTC
Hi All,

I have been thinking about this for the last few years and thought I should finally make it public to get the community's feedback / CCP's feedback

In a nutshell: Being able to change your drones in your drone bay with ones from your cargo hold whilst engaged / in space.

I think this would allow for the use of E-War / TP / Web / Etc.. As well as your standard DMG dealing drones.

So in effect giving the pilot more tactical gameplay during PVP fights.

Lets say you can only have 5 drones max, you have your dmg dealing drones in your drone bay with 5x Web & 5xTP in your cargo. You can then drag and drop the drones stacks (or 1 or 2) from your drone bay to your cargo hold and visa versa.

Comments / suggestions expansion on the idea welcome.

Kind Regards,

Pry
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#2 - 2014-10-26 15:34:46 UTC
Get a mobile depot.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

PryMary
nul-li-fy
#3 - 2014-10-26 15:37:46 UTC
what if I am in a frigate and can't move one about?

The idea is to expand tactics within pvp buddy. If you are not going to add anything constructive please don't add anything at all.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#4 - 2014-10-26 15:52:15 UTC
PryMary wrote:
what if I am in a frigate and can't move one about?

The idea is to expand tactics within pvp buddy. If you are not going to add anything constructive please don't add anything at all.


A mobile depot takes 50m3. It will fit in any ship, except for a shuttle.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2014-10-26 15:53:22 UTC
PryMary wrote:
what if I am in a frigate and can't move one about?

The idea is to expand tactics within pvp buddy. If you are not going to add anything constructive please don't add anything at all.


But he was.

See a mobile depot is 100m³ of your cargo hold. There are not many ships in EVE that cannot carry one. Frigate ammo is very small unless you plan a capital boat with your frigate you should have enough cargo space.

In case you do not have enough cargo space, you can carry a small container where you put that depot into.

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2014-10-26 15:56:37 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
PryMary wrote:
what if I am in a frigate and can't move one about?

The idea is to expand tactics within pvp buddy. If you are not going to add anything constructive please don't add anything at all.


But he was.

See a mobile depot is 100m³ of your cargo hold. There are not many ships in EVE that cannot carry one. Frigate ammo is very small unless you plan a capital boat with your frigate you should have enough cargo space.

In case you do not have enough cargo space, you can carry a small container where you put that depot into.


It's actually only 50m3.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#7 - 2014-10-26 16:06:24 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
...It's actually only 50m3.


Sad my bad, but you can put two of them in a small container + 4 light drones.

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#8 - 2014-10-26 16:13:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
Ships have drone bays that limit the amount of drones that it can carry into battle. This is done on purpose. This requires that pilots make some hard decisions about what drones to carry, what ships to buy, and when to start fights.

If you were to make transfering from cargo to drone bays painless with shifting drones around in combat, then what's the point of a drone bay at all? Just let ALL ships launch from the cargo bay. Ships would still be limited by bandwidth.

Personally, I feel that drone bays are working as intended, and the only change I would like to see, is the ability to look at the drones' status IN the bay. That part has always confused me. Or, at the very least, allow a show info command to show if an item is damaged or not.

Hope this was decently thought out enough for ya. Still... -1

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Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-26 17:01:09 UTC
Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
Ships have drone bays that limit the amount of drones that it can carry into battle. This is done on purpose. This requires that pilots make some hard decisions about what drones to carry, what ships to buy, and when to start fights.

If you were to make transfering from cargo to drone bays painless with shifting drones around in combat, then what's the point of a drone bay at all? Just let ALL ships launch from the cargo bay. Ships would still be limited by bandwidth.

Personally, I feel that drone bays are working as intended, and the only change I would like to see, is the ability to look at the drones' status IN the bay. That part has always confused me. Or, at the very least, allow a show info command to show if an item is damaged or not.

Hope this was decently thought out enough for ya. Still... -1

--Gadget


^^What Gadget said.

Also, what everyone else said about a mobile depot. They are 100% risk free to drop during a fight
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-10-26 18:24:23 UTC
Cargo and drone bay aren't connected due to safety reasons I believe...
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#11 - 2014-10-26 19:14:35 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Get a mobile depot.


this or a friendly orca, rorqual, carrier, super carrier or titan

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#12 - 2014-10-26 21:16:09 UTC
there is a reason that ships have a drone bay and a cargo hold it's to limit the amount of drones they can field w/o limiting their overall cargo. all you would see with this change would be a major overall nerff to the cargo bays of drone boats

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#13 - 2014-10-26 23:55:33 UTC
I fly drones ships and I would love this, however I can see far to many problems with balance and other factors for the PvP crowd so -1.
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#14 - 2014-10-27 00:00:54 UTC
Give it a one minute cool down to move the drones from the hold to the drone bay and I'd be happy. Gives you flexibility but not a tactical advantage in the middle of a fight.

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Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#15 - 2014-10-27 00:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Sugar Kyle
Well currently drone bay size is a balance factor to the ships drone usage. Cargo hold size is the same for various things. Everyone would have all of the drones all of the time and the idea of drone boats with their large drone bays to have more combat drones would go out the window.

Right now if you want that functionality outside of a ship built for it you have to jump through some hoops. This removes all hoops and gives all the drones to everything that can use them.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#16 - 2014-10-27 01:15:35 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
there is a reason that ships have a drone bay and a cargo hold it's to limit the amount of drones they can field w/o limiting their overall cargo. all you would see with this change would be a major overall nerff to the cargo bays of drone boats


Oh noes!

Then we get a heavy assault missile nerf dumped on us next week..

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Khiluale Zotakibe
Protection of Underground Resources
#17 - 2014-10-27 01:34:36 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
...It's actually only 50m3.


Sad my bad, but you can put two of them in a small container + 4 light drones.


Actually you can't..... Mobile Depots are containers in nature and, as you may know, you can't put a container inside another container.

as for this idea... no! If you want to fly a ship with the ability of deploying different flights of drones then fly a drone boat instead. Otherwise, just make choices on which drones to carry in your drone bay and live with the consequences of your choice.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-10-27 07:13:41 UTC
Nope, as said above, too easily abused as extended drone bay.

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-10-27 07:53:25 UTC
thats called a mobile depot. also drones are already OP so no.

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