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Give titans % bonus to links

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Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2014-10-26 11:12:44 UTC
... the old topic turned out bad, so i decided to make a new one.


Idea is simple, give Titans bonuses like the comand ships have to make them more relevant, because they will be much less relevant post Phobe.


Supercariers got bufed a lot (drone modules)

Titans stay like they and are getting only less and less relevant, but are they bigest ships in eve ... So if we don't like to see the win button in space at least make them provide good links, make it worth to make them fleet booster and drop them on grid, they can fit links but t3's and comand ships give better links.

And i think Titans should give links as good as comand ships. Cool
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2014-10-26 11:47:51 UTC
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
... the old topic turned out bad, so i decided to make a new one.


Idea is simple, give Titans bonuses like the comand ships have to make them more relevant, because they will be much less relevant post Phobe.


Supercariers got bufed a lot (drone modules)

Titans stay like they and are getting only less and less relevant, but are they bigest ships in eve ... So if we don't like to see the win button in space at least make them provide good links, make it worth to make them fleet booster and drop them on grid, they can fit links but t3's and comand ships give better links.

And i think Titans should give links as good as comand ships. Cool



Yes but only ON GRID LINKS... also remove covert nullified T3 off grid links..... :)
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2014-10-26 12:00:17 UTC
Tappits wrote:
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Yes but only ON GRID LINKS... also remove covert nullified T3 off grid links..... :)


not like you can kill them any way ... i don't see a reson to remove offgrid links. you can link from inside of a pos any more.


but back to the topic, **** should get this buff for real, thay have all of stuff allready to become the ultimate FC shipli

just lacking the % link bonus
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#4 - 2014-10-26 13:52:26 UTC
Titans don't need to be "relevant". They need to be removed.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#5 - 2014-10-26 18:09:57 UTC
I endorse keeping your Titan outside the POS so that you can have active links. Means it can be bumped to hell and gone and die horribly.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2014-10-26 18:17:09 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Titans don't need to be "relevant". They need to be removed.


As the owner of 1.99 Titans (waiting on the second one), I fully endorse the removal of Titans from the game. Or just make them into T2 Dreadnoughts.

I'd also completely support nerfing super carriers to the point where they were simply carriers with T2 resists and Fighter Bombers and making them dock able.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-10-27 22:11:18 UTC
bump
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2014-10-27 22:19:28 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Titans don't need to be "relevant". They need to be removed.


As the owner of 1.99 Titans (waiting on the second one), I fully endorse the removal of Titans from the game. Or just make them into T2 Dreadnoughts.

I'd also completely support nerfing super carriers to the point where they were simply carriers with T2 resists and Fighter Bombers and making them dock able.

Why?
Gaan Cathal
Angry Mustellid
#9 - 2014-10-28 03:59:19 UTC
Tappits wrote:

Yes but only ON GRID LINKS... also remove covert nullified T3 off grid links..... :)


This is hopefully happening anyway once CCP can work out how to implement it. Off-grid direct influence of on-grid action is a major issue in this game, so here's hoping they fix it.

Given that, and the vulnerability of a Titan outside shields even if it is off grid I support the addition of bonused links to them. These things are supposed to be flagships, in concept at least. Frankly, as someone entirely disinclined to fly Capitals myself, I would actually say they should have a slightly better bonus than Command Ships. A Titan is a serious asset, and I don't just mean "more expensive" (balancing by isk cost is herpaderp) but by their relative vulnerability without a sufficient support fleet, and the greater difficulty of deploying them post-Phoebe.

Making them superior boosters to Command Ships won't kill Command Ships, what's killed Command Ships as boosters is nigh-invulnerable off-grid T3 bullshit. Making them equal or inferior boosters to Command Ships, however, will make the addition basically pointless since if you're in a position to deploy a Titan to an engagement, you can definitely deploy a Command Ship. That obviously assumes the boosting bonus is replacing the innate fleet bonus in the current Titan setup.

You would, however, need to make some other changes to Titans to accommodate the role of booster, for one thing you'd need to double their current damage bonus/lvl and reduce them to three weapons max (just up the damage on Citadel Missiles to account for the 4th lost launcher on the Leviathan, it's not like the Pheonix doesn't need the help). That would allow for fitting three Warfare Links, a full complement of weapons, a JPG and a DD on a Titan, and leaving the option of going "full booster" by sacrificing the weapons rack to fit six bonused Links while retaining JPG and DD/JC functionality.
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2014-10-28 08:35:22 UTC
Gaan Cathal wrote:
Tappits wrote:

Yes but only ON GRID LINKS... also remove covert nullified T3 off grid links..... :)



Making them superior boosters to Command Ships won't kill Command Ships, what's killed Command Ships as boosters is nigh-invulnerable off-grid T3 bullshit. Making them equal or inferior boosters to Command Ships, however, will make the addition basically pointless since if you're in a position to deploy a Titan to an engagement, you can definitely deploy a Command Ship. That obviously assumes the boosting bonus is replacing the innate fleet bonus in the current Titan setup.



Nothing iled comand ships, there are situations that you chose comand ships over offgrid links, and offgrid links are very easy to kill now if you are not ********.

lost few offgrid boosters my self.


The probblem with offgrid links was that you were not able to prob them a, nd you could link from inside of the POS, but if was fixed you can't link from POS shields and you can prob any ship, does not matter how it is fitted. So nothing is wrong there.


only thing i would add is wepon timer when you turn links on, to prevent them from docking in low sec and thats all.



But back to titans, that would be serious boost, all the foot work was been done.
You can fit warfare links etc. This is the thing they lack and should get. Blink i would not make them super OP, and people would be more likley to use them and puting them in risk. insted of pos shields and mega blobs just to DD things .... : (
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-10-28 09:04:50 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
Titans don't need to be "relevant". They need to be removed.


Please explain to me why titans have to be removed. A titan needs so much resources to build i´ll think the impact on the economy in eve would be hard if they would be removed.

I would rather say Titan needs a role and as one of the biggest ship i would say he can be a better dreadnought or he could be a command ship. He should not be an perfekt ship which is op but also not irrelevant.

+1
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-10-29 17:10:51 UTC
make Titans uktimate comand ships and all is cool :)

maybe boost dps slightly to match dread dps lvl's and wo_p wo_p
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2014-11-02 19:11:32 UTC
bump
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2014-11-06 09:48:40 UTC
bump
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#15 - 2014-11-06 10:23:32 UTC
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
make Titans uktimate comand ships and all is cool :)

maybe boost dps slightly to match dread dps lvl's and wo_p wo_p

Please calculate the DPS on a Doomsday.
Hint, 10 minutes = 600 seconds.
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2014-11-07 22:00:10 UTC
bump
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2014-11-11 14:01:54 UTC
aould be cool to bring trol rationg titans back too, way not make the damage nefr ignore npc's?