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So, just a curiosity. What would happen if concord left 0.5 - 0.7?

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Vas Vadum
Draconian Empire
#1 - 2014-10-26 05:40:22 UTC
Yep, just what I said. Only now I'll be a little more descriptive of it.

What would happen, if concord left 0.5, 0.6, and 0.7 space for exactly one month? Then returned slowly, 2 weeks at a time to each one (1 month, then concord would enter 0.7 again, 2 more weeks 0.6, 2 more weeks 0.5.) With a small modifier that concord will remain in all main market hubs, just lowering it to min security level (0.5).

This is just a thought is all, and would likely have some interesting effects on the game. I mean, the loss of many ships and the restricted access of miners for a short while would likely make prices for things go up, the loss of many ships would also cause ship prices to go up for a while. It would show us who our true allies are, and likely give everyone some interesting lessons here and there.

I just thought it might be interesting, if an event was called into the game where suddenly concord had to go deal with some massive crisis situation that required them to pull back for a while, then slowly slip back into the systems to re-protect them. Not saying it SHOULD happen, but, we never have any real events that effect all of eve online like this. I mean, why not have some random event once a year that would cause all of eve to be affected? Not always having to be bad either. I could come up with a great many events really that could happen all throughout the eve universe that would certainly make it more fun and random.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-10-26 05:44:04 UTC
There would be copious tears for certain
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-10-26 06:38:50 UTC
For one, CODE. would only reside in 0.8-1.0

For another, it would be just like the rest of lowsec... boring, dead and full of 'leet' pirate pvpers gate camping trade routes.

What I want to know is what would happen if every Goon or PL member left the game forever...

You would have fun again. No coward agreements. Real fights would actually happen again.
Vas Vadum
Draconian Empire
#4 - 2014-10-26 07:21:13 UTC
You're not thinking on the bigger picture. With the removal of 0.5-0.7 safety status, aka no concord, many pilots would be blown up. Links between high sec areas would become lowsec, so highsec systems would be split off from each other. You wouldn't be able to travel between regions as easily.

Highsec, the remaining 0.8-1.0, would he filled with many MANY miners, and they would deplete the systems very rapidly. You would be forced to venture out into lower security systems to mine during the concord pull back.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-10-26 07:27:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Some Rando
Desimus Maximus wrote:
For one, CODE. would only reside in 0.8-1.0

For another, it would be just like the rest of lowsec... boring, dead and full of 'leet' pirate pvpers gate camping trade routes.

What I want to know is what would happen if every Goon or PL member left the game forever...

You would have fun again. No coward agreements. Real fights would actually happen again.

This is, by far, the most well thought out series of consequences in regards to an OP I have ever read on these forums. Makes sense, too. Lord knows how anyone has fun with Goons or PL in the game...

CCP has no sense of humour.

Josef Djugashvilis
#6 - 2014-10-26 08:06:19 UTC
What would be a much more interesting idea would be to turn the whole of null into lo-sec.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#7 - 2014-10-26 08:13:03 UTC
I remember Armageddon day... And I also remember when Sarum Prime was low-sec... it was camped yo.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#8 - 2014-10-26 08:18:08 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Lord knows how anyone has fun with Goons or PL in the game...


Pretty easy.

You actually talk to members of each organization, and rather than assuming that due to their "label" and "actions" in a video game, you actually realize that like most of the human beings playing the game......

They are actually pretty decent human beings.

Big smileRollPirate

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
#9 - 2014-10-26 08:18:18 UTC
Vas Vadum wrote:
You're not thinking on the bigger picture. With the removal of 0.5-0.7 safety status, aka no concord, many pilots would be blown up. Links between high sec areas would become lowsec, so highsec systems would be split off from each other. You wouldn't be able to travel between regions as easily.

Highsec, the remaining 0.8-1.0, would he filled with many MANY miners, and they would deplete the systems very rapidly. You would be forced to venture out into lower security systems to mine during the concord pull back.

The thing most of the anti-carebear brigades do not get is this:

You can not force a carebear into lowsec/nullsec or even WHs. You will simply force him out of the game.

I don't understand what the obsession is with making highsec less safe. They're playing a different game there. Let em have it. It's not like they're hurting anyone.

pew pew

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-10-26 08:22:29 UTC
OP's idea has been posted multiple times. If really wanna shake things up how about something new such as :

Empire Factions designate 1.0 to 0.6 systems as new high security and declare them a 'No Shoot Zone' by activating a 'Weapon Disruption' frequency which prevents weapons being fired on non legal targets.

Empire Factions then designate 0.5 to 0.1 as the new low security and Concord moves there to conduct business as usual.

Now that would definitely make the game more interesting.



DMC

Mag's
Azn Empire
#11 - 2014-10-26 08:27:49 UTC
Rowells wrote:
There would be copious tears for certain
Indeed.

Concord is a necessary mechanic, that has a balancing effect in high sec. Your idea would simply reduce high sec's size.

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Emma Muutaras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-10-26 08:33:10 UTC
it would just turn into low sec for a few weeks without the perks of lowsec like cynos better ore capitals.

yes there would also be tears but as long as its well advertised before hand most high sec players would just move to a safe 0.8 for a week
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-10-26 08:53:37 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
Desimus Maximus wrote:
For one, CODE. would only reside in 0.8-1.0


That made my day!
Bear

Now i have to wipe coffee from my keyboard!

However if some systems would have "variable sec State", itmight add an interesting factor.
Gankers and miners would have to watch permanently for that.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

Yolandar
CSR Strategic Reserves
Citizen's Star Republic
#14 - 2014-10-26 09:08:23 UTC
Why not do away with Concord altogether? Make the FacPo seriously tougher, like SWAT tough in 1.0 and .9 and on down to current levels in losec.

Security status a thing of the past. An outlaw in Caldari space could be a hero in The Federation. And you could let the FW peeps do hunting too, give em those LPs and standings for killing their enemies.

knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-10-26 09:35:19 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
For one, CODE. would only reside in 0.8-1.0

For another, it would be just like the rest of lowsec... boring, dead and full of 'leet' pirate pvpers gate camping trade routes.

What I want to know is what would happen if every Goon or PL member left the game forever...

You would have fun again. No coward agreements. Real fights would actually happen again.


Confirming I'm a coward and do not participate in real fights or have in EVE. My entire kill history is made up of false API submissions and Eveboard hasn't banned me because they're in a coward agreement. The only fun I get from EVE is reading these forums and some of the utterly misguided comments. No fun allowed. Mittani's orders.
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-10-26 09:37:19 UTC
Agree with OP, so long as clones, medical clones/immortality and along with HIC and bubbles allowed, pods at this point are just escape mechanism. Got the griefers hiding in high sec but now they cannot run, but when you go pop now CCP can implement their burner clone + death. No more abuse, everyone is fair game with this skill points on the line and non-refundable loss....let the risk adverse begin Twisted
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#17 - 2014-10-26 11:17:57 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:


What I want to know is what would happen if every Goon or PL member left the game forever...

You would have fun again. No coward agreements. Real fights would actually happen again.


Such negativity.

Have you ever considerd that your lack of fun is the source of fun for members of the most glorious CFC and its esteemed and valued frenemies PL?

Do your part as a player and provide fun for other people. Its the right thing to do! Twisted
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-26 12:49:03 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Confirming I'm a coward...


Yepp, confirmed!

Hiiiiii former "DJ Entropie Ovaert"

Big smile
Blink

At least you sound like him!
Oh wait you also confirm you are a codie!

One sounds like a guys who was banned, but was bragging before, that he has "a lot of alts".
hmmm

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

stoicfaux
#19 - 2014-10-26 13:25:52 UTC
High-sec industry would grind to a halt. CCP would lose subs. CCP would sober up and revert the changes Wednesday morning.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#20 - 2014-10-26 13:50:28 UTC
CCP would lose the subs of people who prefer hisec is what would happen.

Just inserting some new lowsec systems in between the empires would be interesting though... Would probably increase price differences of certain items across empires and make it more worthwhile to ship stuff between them.
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