EVE General Discussion

I guess the responsibility of informing them on how things are broken falls on to you then. Don't be shy, write it all down here in a calm and constructive manner.

You can do it.

I believe in you.

Highsec mining has been extremely competitive for a long time, so I'm not sure I can spot the change from how things were. Where has the largest change happened and why? Do you have ideas to fix the problem? Nerf highsec, change mineral distribution in the ores, add more ores to null to shift the bottleneck or maybe something else.

You're the one doing it and feel the issue on a regular basis, so you must have ideas.

if you're going to mine more in null sec, and flood the market with minerals...

what the **** did you think would happen to the price of high end minerals?

Let me get this straight, you complain that nullsec vs highsec mining prices are disproprortionate because the nullsec prices are lower then highsec.

Not sure if you've been following, but highsec mining has becoming less & less safe, perhaps not in reality, but certainly in perception, causing less folks to mine in high. (and these are minerals in high demand in large volumes, so need alot of people mining).

Nullsec mining on the other hand is fairly safe, if you do it in the systems assigned to you (the miners). Yes there's chances to get hotdropped, but that's a non-issue, as the highsec miner gets the gankers, so there's that. With added, if local spikes in null, GTFO, while in highsec, every person in local is a potential red( ganker) and you can't go dock every time a new guy jumps in... if you want to get any mining done in high.
On top of this is that while nullsec ores are in demand, the volumes needed are smaller, so less miners needed to cover the demand: lower prices.

Want better null prices? Either make highsec mining safer, so people flock to high to mine instead of null, or make nullsec mining more dangerous, so less people mine and the remaining miners get higher prices.

It's a video game. Risk is a made up word. You either can or you can't. Easy button mining, PvE, PvP. It's all the same.

Reward? You mine in complete safety, that's the reward. You earned it by building a blue donut. Gratz, enjoy.

You logic is not allowed in GD!

Can't I just have ONE toy?! :P

It is viable - you just have to import certain goods from other regions.

Imagine if you will...

The Jump Bridge Network which gets stuff to and from market in Highsec in a trice never existed.
That Null Alliances all contain a couple of very strong industrial corps.
Imagine that you're flying ships which have been purchased locally, manufactured by those industrial corps locally.
Imagine that there are buy orders which feed these industrial corps, Trit at 2x Highsec price, Zyd a little lower (though the Highsec price on highends would be higher than it is now).

You could export the product of your mining, perhaps get a better price for it, but you're going to have to gate to gate a freighter to do so... Or you could buy your BS for 25% over what it goes for in Highsec and still pocket a huge profit...

Oh look!

It's 2005-6 again.

Who would have thought: Mining in null-sec isn't as much about profit than it is about having a viable at home industry with appropriate mineral supply.

Maybe stick with mining Scordite and Veldspar in null until the high-end mineral prices have recovered from the oversupply.

Guess a industry upgrade that lets you spawn sites of a specific type of ore instead of a set high-end one would help controlling null-sec mineral supply. The standard belts don't seem to supply enough low-ends.