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high plex prices a sign that eve is dying or that the game is too easy

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#1 - 2014-10-25 10:08:55 UTC
supply and demand right...so less new players means less plex for sale

....too easy to make isk makes it too easy for bitter vets to keep playing with 20 accounts....

solution get rid of plex so people dont have to worry about it and the people who love the game will stay and those that dont can go
eliminator2
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-10-25 10:18:35 UTC
what about the people who love the game but play it by plexing not a subscription?

Chromaticles
Democratic People's Republic of New Eden
#3 - 2014-10-25 10:22:25 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
supply and demand right...so less new players means less plex for sale

....too easy to make isk makes it too easy for bitter vets to keep playing with 20 accounts....

solution get rid of plex so people dont have to worry about it and the people who love the game will stay and those that dont can go


I don't think you know how supply and demand works. New players do not often put plex up for sale. However, more new players who join might want to purchase Plex, creating a higher demand.
Big Lynx
#4 - 2014-10-25 10:39:50 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
supply and demand right...so less new players means less plex for sale

....too easy to make isk makes it too easy for bitter vets to keep playing with 20 accounts....

solution get rid of plex so people dont have to worry about it and the people who love the game will stay and those that dont can go


stealth tears?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2014-10-25 10:43:48 UTC
OP is being rather ridiculous and completely ignorant of supply and demand.

Plus, oh look this thread again. Roll

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Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#6 - 2014-10-25 10:45:56 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
supply and demand right...so less new players means less plex for sale

....too easy to make isk makes it too easy for bitter vets to keep playing with 20 accounts....

solution get rid of plex so people dont have to worry about it and the people who love the game will stay and those that dont can go




you know whats coming right??... phoebe... which also means.. plex sale.. which also means the market prices will dip alittle.. and you really wouldn't want to see the remaining player numbers if those that are getting fed up actually left..

ccp designed this game so alts are REQUIRED... not needed.. but REQUIRED.. therefore.. plex is here to stay..

you can bank on that buddy!
Arisidana
Amadari Traders
#7 - 2014-10-25 10:46:54 UTC
I, as a speculator, love high PLEX prices, but also love low PLEX prices Big smile. It's all a matter of perspective.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-25 10:48:55 UTC
Get rid of PLEX?

Stupidest idea I ever heard on these forums. I don't buy PLEX, I pay cash for my accounts, once a year. But if you really want to see EVE die off, get rid of PLEX.

I got no sympathy for people who can't find 15 lousy bucks a month for one account. But that's the reality, some people can't play without using a PLEX...and I'm guessing thousands will leave without them...

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#9 - 2014-10-25 10:49:07 UTC
The biggest problem is that PLEX has WAY more uses than just subscription, like character swaps, resculpting and AUR.

If you can separate PLEX from those things and allow them all to still be traded for ISK then we'll be fine.

The Drake is a Lie

metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#10 - 2014-10-25 11:05:40 UTC
If you get rid of plex then people can't have alts anymore problem solved people are forced to play with each other which is whateveryone wants anyways, seems pretty simple to me
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#11 - 2014-10-25 11:12:43 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
supply and demand right...so less new players means less plex for sale


Wrong.

metalravenous wrote:
....too easy to make isk makes it too easy for bitter vets to keep playing with 20 accounts....


Wrong.

metalravenous wrote:
solution get rid of plex so people dont have to worry about it and the people who love the game will stay and those that dont can go


Pretty much all the people that are playing now like the game. They wouldn't be playing otherwise.
Big Lynx
#12 - 2014-10-25 11:14:50 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
If you get rid of plex then people can't have alts anymore problem solved people are forced to play with each other which is whateveryone wants anyways, seems pretty simple to me


You are correct.
Robert Warner
Back Door Burglars
#13 - 2014-10-25 11:17:27 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
If you get rid of plex then people can't have alts anymore problem solved people are forced to play with each other which is whateveryone wants anyways, seems pretty simple to me


Yes that's exactly what CCP wants. The best advice I can offer you is never go into business, it's not for you.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#14 - 2014-10-25 11:24:14 UTC
Mag's wrote:
OP is being rather ridiculous and completely ignorant of supply and demand.

Plus, oh look this thread again. Roll


Removing PLEX might have an effect towards not pricing new players out of ships.

In my day a caracal was worth 3.3 million, took a while to save for it running pathetic level 2 missions. Gotta grind your bears in to dust right CCP? The last time I bought one it was closer to 12 million.. so prices are 4x higher but incomes have remained static. In America we call this "2007".
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-10-25 11:37:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Arronicus
metalravenous wrote:
supply and demand right...so less new players means less plex for sale

....too easy to make isk makes it too easy for bitter vets to keep playing with 20 accounts....

solution get rid of plex so people dont have to worry about it and the people who love the game will stay and those that dont can go



"CCP doesn't need the income from those 50k accounts that are paid for by plex, that if the player couldnt plex them, they wouldn't keep them."

Riiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttt.

*Note, 50k is a made up number, but is lower than the average monthly quantity traded in Jita alone (~65k PLEX sold per month in Jita)

Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Mag's wrote:
OP is being rather ridiculous and completely ignorant of supply and demand.

Plus, oh look this thread again. Roll


Removing PLEX might have an effect towards not pricing new players out of ships.

In my day a caracal was worth 3.3 million, took a while to save for it running pathetic level 2 missions. Gotta grind your bears in to dust right CCP? The last time I bought one it was closer to 12 million.. so prices are 4x higher but incomes have remained static. In America we call this "2007".



Considering the fact that it was cruiser tiericide largely that drove the price up, due to an artificially controlled increase in mineral requirements, there is no apt comparison to be made within the American economy.

As for income, income sources are more profitable and more accessible than they were 'when caracals were 3.3 mil'. When caracals were 3.3 mil, faction warfare missions or plexing were not a thing (FW was not out yet). When caracals were 3.3 mil, incursions did not exist. When Caracals were 3.3 mil, anomalies did not exist. When caracals were 3.3mil, Wormhole space was not yet released. When Caracals were 3.3mil, the ways in which a player could make the sums of isk that they can make now, were drastically reduced, limited mostly to running level 5 highsec missions with a good group, multibox ratting, or large mining operations.

But please, tell me about how caracals were 3.3 mil less than 6 years ago.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#16 - 2014-10-25 11:39:29 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Mag's wrote:
OP is being rather ridiculous and completely ignorant of supply and demand.

Plus, oh look this thread again. Roll


Removing PLEX might have an effect towards not pricing new players out of ships.

In my day a caracal was worth 3.3 million, took a while to save for it running pathetic level 2 missions. Gotta grind your bears in to dust right CCP? The last time I bought one it was closer to 12 million.. so prices are 4x higher but incomes have remained static. In America we call this "2007".


But now you come out of the newbie mission arcs with several million, assuming you trash everything that drops during the arcs.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#17 - 2014-10-25 11:50:07 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Mag's wrote:
OP is being rather ridiculous and completely ignorant of supply and demand.

Plus, oh look this thread again. Roll


Removing PLEX might have an effect towards not pricing new players out of ships.

In my day a caracal was worth 3.3 million, took a while to save for it running pathetic level 2 missions. Gotta grind your bears in to dust right CCP? The last time I bought one it was closer to 12 million.. so prices are 4x higher but incomes have remained static. In America we call this "2007".
But when you consider how easy it is to make ISK compared to then, it's not an issue.

I do however recall it being a rather daunting task, to make the ISK for a Moa back in 2004.

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ISD Decoy
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ISD Alliance
#18 - 2014-10-25 12:44:34 UTC
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