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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#21 - 2011-12-13 13:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Damar Rocarion
Markius TheShed wrote:
Damar Rocarion wrote:

I really recommend people leave silly stuff like gilas & cynabals home and just slug it out with ruptures, thoraxes, etc. since surely no-ones wallet or Epeen is hurt by losing those.


This^^
I never thought i would ever agree with anything that Damar has to say Ugh


Gila & Cynabal are really the worst offenders for medium plexes for reasons numerous people have outlined. Phantasm is pretty much equal to Nomen and other Empire faction cruisers (better in some areas, worse in others) and vigilant at least (usually) commits you to the fight at close range.

I don't know how bad Dramiel is these days for minor plexes since I usually end winning them with hookbill. With destroyer buff minor plex fights should be in balance. At least my catalyst destroyed one unlucky firetail in approximately 10 seconds...

Edit: The new mechanism also sort of encourages going at it with less expensive boats. Previous system more or less guaranteed a system got only couple of plexes per day so it was in everyone's interest to bring out the biggest gun because you just had to get that plex.There was only one possibility of a fight and you had to end up on top, no matter what.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#22 - 2011-12-14 02:25:27 UTC
Markius TheShed wrote:
Amarr brought 40 drakes plus other random crap to chase our 20 man BC fleet out of a major plex in Dal last night, So that's 60-70 people right there.

The new plex spawns have given FW a real kick, they drop a drake blob so we reship to frigs and take the minor plex.


Could someone please teach the minnies to count, honestly you read there miltia chat and listen to them on comms and everyone off our fleet seems to get counted twice.

We never had 40 Drakes, We only had maybe 32 in fleet, including booster and scouts, of those a mere 15-20 were Drakes. You'll never see me in a drake anymore as I have a working penis and a soul.

The Dal Major would have been a great fight as our numbers were actually the SAME. You guys had us warping in on you, giving you the advantage. Had you just grown man candy you would have been apart of something epic. Alas you warpped out and we got to orbit the timer. Next time.


Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#23 - 2011-12-14 02:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: sYnc Vir
Markius TheShed wrote:
FIRST GENERAL wrote:


What i'm disappointed about is that we actually try pretty hard to make fights happen and try to make them relatively even numberwise so that we can have some sweet slugging out - but the WTS just don't seem interested in that. And in that respect 40 man Amarr gangs turn into "100 man Gangs with at least a dozen logi's" that need to be countered with at least double the numbers.
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We were all sat in the plex ready to fight with drones out as you all landed on gate, But then the report comes into the FC that you had 4 Scimi, So then he has to make a split second decision stay or go.

That time he chose go, and he would be a poor FC if he ignores all available intel and just suicides into every fight.

Still as I said before Fun is being had in faction war and reports of it's demise are greatly exaggerated (Like everyone's fleet size) Blink



FYI on this.

1 to remane nameless guy came to fleet with a Scimi alt, he was inform on comms that should hes alt even warp to the plex he would be killed.

We wanted the fight, said pilot never joined fleet. We had no logi, please inform your "scouts" that 1 scimi does not mean 4 logi, and that just because a WT is near a fleet, doesn't mean they are in that fleet.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Markius TheShed
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#24 - 2011-12-14 07:35:45 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:

and that just because a WT is near a fleet, doesn't mean they are in that fleet.
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When your fleet is in the 35-40Au warp to the plex gate and all the scout has to go on are directional D-scans how can they tell what your exact numbers are and who is in fleet or not?.



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Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#25 - 2011-12-14 08:17:25 UTC
Markius TheShed wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:

and that just because a WT is near a fleet, doesn't mean they are in that fleet.
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When your fleet is in the 35-40Au warp to the plex gate and all the scout has to go on are directional D-scans how can they tell what your exact numbers are and who is in fleet or not?.





Well, we've learned to expect extreme recon/logi dishonor from EU Amarr. Blame Nephilim Xeno. vOv

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#26 - 2011-12-14 10:47:06 UTC  |  Edited by: sYnc Vir
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Markius TheShed wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:

and that just because a WT is near a fleet, doesn't mean they are in that fleet.
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When your fleet is in the 35-40Au warp to the plex gate and all the scout has to go on are directional D-scans how can they tell what your exact numbers are and who is in fleet or not?.





Well, we've learned to expect extreme recon/logi dishonor from EU Amarr. Blame Nephilim Xeno. vOv



I said to remane NAMELESS, damn you.

W-BR rolls with honour, if we agree a 1 v 1 you get a 1 v 1. If we say no Logi we bring no logi. Just how we do things.

Also if your scouts only using Dscan, teach them the numbers to enter on that thing per AU. Then once they learn that, have the learn in which direction the fleet is and warp towards it. We always get eyes, not scans on fleets. If all else fails it was a gated plex, he could have sat on the gate and bloody counted us when we landed.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Galatica789
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#27 - 2011-12-14 14:54:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Galatica789
TBH, The Amarr will almost never fight without a guarntee win, In a cap fight, they will out number your caps 5 to 1 (US Timezone)
They will call in Nullsec allaince's on your BS gangs if you kill there carriers. W-BR will titan bridge on you and call in Raiden and or use 6-9 Guardians with Triage Archons on standby ready to drop and half the time will have Raiden on stanby if they feel like we are going to use our caps (EU Timezone ofc)

Eran Mintor is noturious for bringing BC's agaisnt Frigs, so we ship up to BC's then he will get his people into BS'S, Then we get into BS's and Eran wets himself and blue balls or gets so much logistical support in place we have no chance of wiining and yet the Amarr execpt us to fight :(. Only way to get a fight out of him was to attack is P.O.C.O, regardless with one archon we wiped out a good portion of I-Laws cap fleet (Never should have dropped 2 Triage Carriers and 3 Dreads agaisnt Baha in hindsight :DD ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ld8bZj1oME

The only real people that fly with some risk, is probally TMFED (OMG THEY STATION CAMP!?!?! no, your just an idiot to die to them). Atleast TMFED wont use 5 plus Caps or Titan Bridge on you if there is a small perecent chance they will die. Now I understand there is a small percentage from the main Amarr Corps who will fly with soem risk but most like FG,Eran,Pred,Zero2Respect,Neph, will refuse to think about losing a fight and are known for bringing in 0.0 alliances to comfort them (50/50 chance) Amarr Fc : But we only use our batphones to make sure you dont use SUpercaps !!!!!, Whens the last time we used them, get a new excuse please,

I execpt Amarr to defend themselves now with my statements, I execpt to be troll'd but we both know what I say is true.

Havent meant an Amarr to dishonor a 1v1 though yet :D
FIRST GENERAL
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#28 - 2011-12-14 15:02:13 UTC  |  Edited by: FIRST GENERAL
Galatica789 wrote:
TBH, The Amarr will almost never fight without a guarntee win, In a cap fight, they will out number your caps 5 to 1 (US Timezone)
They will call in Nullsec allaince's on your BS gangs if you kill there carriers. W-BR will titan bridge on you and call in Raiden and or use 6-9 Guardians with Triage Archons on standby ready to drop and half the time will have Raiden on stanby if they feel like we are going to use our caps (EU Timezone ofc)

Eran Mintor is noturious for bringing BC's agaisnt Frigs, so we ship up to BC's then he will get his people into BS'S, Then we get into BS's and Eran wets himself and blue balls or gets so much logistical support in place we have no chance of wiining and yet the Amarr execpt us to fight :(. Only way to get a fight out of him was to attack is P.O.C.O, regardless with one archon we wiped out a good portion of I-Laws cap fleet (Never should have dropped 2 Triage Carriers and 3 Dreads agaisnt Baha in hindsight :DD ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ld8bZj1oME

The only real people that fly with some risk, is probally TMFED (OMG THEY STATION CAMP!?!?! no, your just an idiot to die to them). Atleast TMFED wont use 5 plus Caps or Titan Bridge on you if there is a small perecent chance they will die. Now I understand there is a small percentage from the main Amarr Corps who will fly with soem risk but most like FG,Eran,Pred,Zero2Respect,Neph, will refuse to think about losing a fight and are known for bringing in 0.0 alliances to comfort them (50/50 chance) Amarr Fc : But we only use our batphones to make sure you dont use SUpercaps !!!!!, Whens the last time we used them, get a new excuse please,

I execpt Amarr to defend themselves now with my statements, I execpt to be troll'd but we both know what I say is true.

Havent meant an Amarr to dishonor a 1v1 though yet :D


You mad. Also, you jelly of the bridges?
Galatica789
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#29 - 2011-12-14 15:04:12 UTC
FIRST GENERAL wrote:
Galatica789 wrote:
TBH, The Amarr will almost never fight without a guarntee win, In a cap fight, they will out number your caps 5 to 1 (US Timezone)
They will call in Nullsec allaince's on your BS gangs if you kill there carriers. W-BR will titan bridge on you and call in Raiden and or use 6-9 Guardians with Triage Archons on standby ready to drop and half the time will have Raiden on stanby if they feel like we are going to use our caps (EU Timezone ofc)

Eran Mintor is noturious for bringing BC's agaisnt Frigs, so we ship up to BC's then he will get his people into BS'S, Then we get into BS's and Eran wets himself and blue balls or gets so much logistical support in place we have no chance of wiining and yet the Amarr execpt us to fight :(. Only way to get a fight out of him was to attack is P.O.C.O, regardless with one archon we wiped out a good portion of I-Laws cap fleet (Never should have dropped 2 Triage Carriers and 3 Dreads agaisnt Baha in hindsight :DD ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ld8bZj1oME

The only real people that fly with some risk, is probally TMFED (OMG THEY STATION CAMP!?!?! no, your just an idiot to die to them). Atleast TMFED wont use 5 plus Caps or Titan Bridge on you if there is a small perecent chance they will die. Now I understand there is a small percentage from the main Amarr Corps who will fly with soem risk but most like FG,Eran,Pred,Zero2Respect,Neph, will refuse to think about losing a fight and are known for bringing in 0.0 alliances to comfort them (50/50 chance) Amarr Fc : But we only use our batphones to make sure you dont use SUpercaps !!!!!, Whens the last time we used them, get a new excuse please,

I execpt Amarr to defend themselves now with my statements, I execpt to be troll'd but we both know what I say is true.

Havent meant an Amarr to dishonor a 1v1 though yet :D


You mad. Also, you jelly of the bridges?


Lol did I just not predict your response hahahahah
FIRST GENERAL
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#30 - 2011-12-14 15:13:34 UTC
Tbh just can't be arsed to type up a serious reply to that wall of unfounded allegations, so i thought i might just as well troll you.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-12-14 15:39:44 UTC
i think somone is sabotaging amarr/minnie fights with these mythical 4 scimis and 4 falcons we always seem to have and hear about, yet never actually see.

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#32 - 2011-12-14 15:42:11 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
i think somone is sabotaging amarr/minnie fights with these mythical 4 scimis and 4 falcons we always seem to have and hear about, yet never actually see.


I once had a frigate roam around Auga and apparently our 6 guys turned into a gang of 9 recon ships (mainly falcons) Lol
Galatica789
Victory or Whatever
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#33 - 2011-12-14 19:21:38 UTC
Damar Rocarion wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
i think somone is sabotaging amarr/minnie fights with these mythical 4 scimis and 4 falcons we always seem to have and hear about, yet never actually see.


I once had a frigate roam around Auga and apparently our 6 guys turned into a gang of 9 recon ships (mainly falcons) Lol


Hey, Only Gallente are paranoid of Falcons, :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Mac Tir
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2011-12-14 21:41:04 UTC
Caldari: ''You''
Gallente: ''No you''


x14 billion threads
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
#35 - 2011-12-14 22:33:27 UTC
Galatica789 wrote:
TBH, The Amarr will almost never fight without a guarntee win, In a cap fight, they will out number your caps 5 to 1 (US Timezone)


Clearly today 15 vs 15 t1 cruiser bash would have been too risky so Amarr fled. Oh wait, it was actually Matar...
Amarr might want death to all unbelievers but by my view, they really would want fights. But it just does not seem Matar want to bring it....
Garr Earthbender
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2011-12-14 22:55:41 UTC
Galatica789 wrote:
Damar Rocarion wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
i think somone is sabotaging amarr/minnie fights with these mythical 4 scimis and 4 falcons we always seem to have and hear about, yet never actually see.


I once had a frigate roam around Auga and apparently our 6 guys turned into a gang of 9 recon ships (mainly falcons) Lol


Hey, Only Gallente are paranoid of Falcons, :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD


We shall hide in fear no longer from the Dreaded Falcon of Doom.

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11890087

-Scissors is overpowered, rock is fine. -Paper
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#37 - 2011-12-15 02:53:27 UTC
Interesting ... Smack level and acusation level on amarr/matari militia level is rising....
GavinGoodrich
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2011-12-15 03:49:22 UTC
So yeah, caldari/gallente update:

Caldari roll anywhere from 5-25 during peak euro times, and anywhere from 5-35 on our busiest days in peak North American times.

Roams vary from frigs/dessies to nano BC to armor hacs/armor BS's with mainly guardians and the occasional triage archon or two in tow. Often we'll see command links from neutral alts (blegh) but at least we can shoot the carriers if they rep...

The updated plex respawn mechanics allow for more fun times all-around, which is good. We had 3 fights over a single plex within 2 hours in a single day, and this is fairly common.

Gallente usually outman/outgun us by a ~~small/medium margin, but sometimes it's fairly even. On an induvidual basis, the Galls are superior at nano than the squids, and generally have a lil' more isk/ships to spare. You'll usually see more t3's, tier 3's, etc from the Galls than Squids. Logi-wise it's about even, Command links the Galls usually have a couple more per day.

Depending on the week, both sides will win and lose, and depending on the FC, usually by a hard margin.

TL;DR great fun all around, if you're lookin' to join a militia, go for squids, as we could use the extra manpower.

Haaaaaalp my head's on fire
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#39 - 2011-12-15 06:47:23 UTC
GavinGoodrich wrote:
So yeah, caldari/gallente update:

Caldari roll anywhere from 5-25 during peak euro times, and anywhere from 5-35 on our busiest days in peak North American times.

Roams vary from frigs/dessies to nano BC to armor hacs/armor BS's with mainly guardians and the occasional triage archon or two in tow. Often we'll see command links from neutral alts (blegh) but at least we can shoot the carriers if they rep...

The updated plex respawn mechanics allow for more fun times all-around, which is good. We had 3 fights over a single plex within 2 hours in a single day, and this is fairly common.

Gallente usually outman/outgun us by a ~~small/medium margin, but sometimes it's fairly even. On an induvidual basis, the Galls are superior at nano than the squids, and generally have a lil' more isk/ships to spare. You'll usually see more t3's, tier 3's, etc from the Galls than Squids. Logi-wise it's about even, Command links the Galls usually have a couple more per day.

Depending on the week, both sides will win and lose, and depending on the FC, usually by a hard margin.

TL;DR great fun all around, if you're lookin' to join a militia, go for squids, as we could use the extra manpower.


And generally there is no shortage of gallente to shoot, meaning when you log in you're likely to have targets within a couple minutes
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