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I am confused with the basic neural remap mechanics.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1 - 2011-12-14 01:33:35 UTC
I have been reading about the threads about potential neural remap gift (know CCP is rethinking this right now), and that has got me thinking about how the existing mechanics work, and I am now confused.

My char has 2 remaps available (have had them for quite some time now), as per the attributes section of my char sheet.

So a couple questions:

1. I am unsure when I last remapped, and my skill history does not track back far enough to give me any clues.
How do I figure out when I last did a remap?
2. Does CCP "give" us a free remap every 12 months? I am not talking about any gifts, but basic mechanics.
If I did not do a remap for 12 months, would after 12 months and 1 day would I see 3 remaps available instead of the two I have today?
Jonathan Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#2 - 2011-12-14 01:50:36 UTC
That's okay, so is CCP (or at least with the ramifications those mechanics have on giving away 'free remaps'.)
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#3 - 2011-12-14 01:50:53 UTC
You don't bank up remaps, if you never use them, oh well. You get 2 as a new character and then ccp gave people +1 previously as some bonus irrespective of time left, so myself I had 45 days cooldown left and I got it shaved off, people who had a remap ready, got +1.

Confused? yes CCP is.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#4 - 2011-12-14 02:21:42 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I have been reading about the threads about potential neural remap gift (know CCP is rethinking this right now), and that has got me thinking about how the existing mechanics work, and I am now confused.

My char has 2 remaps available (have had them for quite some time now), as per the attributes section of my char sheet.

So a couple questions:

1. I am unsure when I last remapped, and my skill history does not track back far enough to give me any clues.
How do I figure out when I last did a remap?
2. Does CCP "give" us a free remap every 12 months? I am not talking about any gifts, but basic mechanics.
If I did not do a remap for 12 months, would after 12 months and 1 day would I see 3 remaps available instead of the two I have today?


1. If you have one, your last used doesn't matter.
2. You get a new one 12 months after you use your last availiable remap.

If you have 2, this will give you a third.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Adonis Lee Ongrard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-12-14 02:22:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Adonis Lee Ongrard
1. You don't. It's not necessary to know the date of your last remap when you still have more to use. They will only tell you the date of your last remap when you have no more remaps to use, because that's when the 12-month timer begins.

2. Mechanics normally give another remap 12 months after the last remap is used up. If you do not use the last remap, then you will not get another one. However, CCP gave us a remap as a Christmas present last year. It was controversial because of the way it ended up being done.

Edit: Scooped. lol
Brock Nelson
#6 - 2011-12-14 03:48:26 UTC
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
You don't bank up remaps, if you never use them, oh well.


Then explain why one of my alt has 4 remaps available

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2011-12-14 03:51:55 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
You don't bank up remaps, if you never use them, oh well.


Then explain why one of my alt has 4 remaps available


Probably talking about the "annual" remap. Rather than bonuses.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Kalan Ikuru
Workers' Compensation
Sukyoko-Moussa Ltd.
#8 - 2011-12-14 05:14:05 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
You get a new one 12 months after you use your last availiable remap.



This is what causes people to get confused, because strictly speaking that's not how it works.

You get one new remap every time you spend 12 sequential months with 0 remaps available. It's a very fine distinction.
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#9 - 2011-12-14 05:29:25 UTC
Gunnery:
Spaceship Command:

Perception
Willpower.

If you have EveMon, use the piechart to graph your skills. Gunnery and Spaceship command will eat over half of all SP trained.

I've never remapped my mains. You worry too much.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#10 - 2011-12-14 16:41:23 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Gunnery:
Spaceship Command:

Perception
Willpower.

If you have EveMon, use the piechart to graph your skills. Gunnery and Spaceship command will eat over half of all SP trained.

I've never remapped my mains. You worry too much.


What on earth are you talking about?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2011-12-14 16:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Brock Nelson wrote:
Apollo Gabriel wrote:
You don't bank up remaps, if you never use them, oh well.


Then explain why one of my alt has 4 remaps available

Given two on birth and two during the learning skill removal?
RaTTuS
BIG
#12 - 2011-12-14 17:22:02 UTC
Kalan Ikuru wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
You get a new one 12 months after you use your last availiable remap.



This is what causes people to get confused, because strictly speaking that's not how it works.

You get one new remap every time you spend 12 sequential months with 0 remaps available. It's a very fine distinction.

no you don't
12x30days after you have remapped you can remap again,
if you have never used a remap , and ccp give out remaps then you get +1 to your count

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2011-12-14 17:46:21 UTC
RaTTuS wrote:
Kalan Ikuru wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
You get a new one 12 months after you use your last availiable remap.



This is what causes people to get confused, because strictly speaking that's not how it works.

You get one new remap every time you spend 12 sequential months with 0 remaps available. It's a very fine distinction.

no you don't
12x30days after you have remapped you can remap again,
if you have never used a remap , and ccp give out remaps then you get +1 to your count


12x30 days after you have used your *LAST* remaining remap, you can remap again.
If you have never used a remap, your count will only change when you get bonus maps allocated (probably 4 or 5 max currently).

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon