Science & Industry

Well, you have to find a location that has the ore you are looking for, get your gear out there, find some way of refining it (otherwise use a rorqual to compress it), and find a way to get the ore / minerals back to empire. The actual mining is simple, except you have to be able to either tank the BS rats or kill them. Also, just try not to get ganked (pay attention to local).

I'm not sure if you want to do this solo or if you want to join a corp / alliance. If you want to go solo, you'll definitely need to be able to deal with the logistics yourself, and it will be much harder to find a quiet system to mine in (i.e. vacant). If you plan to join a 0.0 entity, most of them do not look kindly upon someone who is not willing to fleet up and assist in defending space when necessary (i.e. pvp). It's totally fine if you want to only mine, so long as you also fleet up from time to time. You can have an alt that you train for combat in order to facilitate this, so you can focus on industry skills with the other toon.

EDIT: I guess the bottom line is, you can't really escape the pvp aspect of this game. If you don't look for it, it will find you. There is only one server: the pvp server. I understand that some people really just aren't in to that, but it's inescapable. Even in hi sec you can get ganked.

If you're more of a solo player, wormholes can be fun, but equally dangerous if not more dangerous than 0.0.

Hello i mine in nullsec currently and i have to say it is way better than mining in high sec. Bigger rocks to mine more profit involved with the new t2 mining bonuses and mining the ABCM ores out here. The thing i highly recommend is joining a corp in nullsec for mining as you can get bonuses safety in numbers and the usually scout or two watching the systems ahead. Grav sites with a good industry level of a system help also as if a neut comes into system it gives you more time to warp to your station pos etc. Now one of the problems when mining in nullsec

THE NEUTRAL ROAMER

People who come through your system looking for a fight or easy kill. with grav sites there not really a problem if you warp when you keep eyes on local and get safe you should be fine. When the neutral or neutral gang passes wait a couple minutes to make sure they arent going back to see if your mining again and get cocky..

Hulks can tank

Hulks can tank battleship rats out in nullsec if you got a part faction setup. For me to have my hulk tank it costs 120-150m for the faction modules i need to tank the battleships easily but i choose not to and have my alt tank. good luck nullsec mining send me a message if you have any other questions ill be happy to answer them!

Null sec life

Null sec is pretty quiet depending where you are located no matter its not as populated as high sec but is just as dangerous to ganking...

If you're in a renter mining corp (which sounds like your best bet), you'll have to accept that quite a bit of ABC will be cherry picked by asshats. If you're not an asshat, you'll help mine the SuperSPUD to keep the indy index up. You won't have to join CTAs, but you will generally be subject to many, many rules and regs regarding conduct in addition to a fee to corp to help pay rent. You also won't likely be mining alone, so rats can likely be managed to keep you alive.

A regular freighter will not help much besides getting your stuff to the hisec staging point, and helping get mins from there to Jita.

From my experience, null mining is far more complicated than empire and I'm not sure how much more you get out of it.

1 - You usually need a tank to tank the rats for you since they will destroy a hulk unless you go faction fit, which then limits your ore/hour. If you can get an alt to mine with you and one takes agro and the other puts shield rep drones on you, it could work better.
2 - You have to deal with reds coming in your system while you are mining and then there is the issue of cloaked reds that is always a pain since they go afk for long periods yet switch back and forth to see someone they can attack. Since they are cloaked, not much you can do about getting them to leave.
3 - You need to have industry upgrades to get ABCM ores most times. There are systems that these roids will spawn but all my experiences were with alliances that had industry upgrades. Note, it's a pita to get them up to a level to give you consistent spawns and you have people fighting over the ABCM's, which can also be a pain.
4 - Refining and hauling. If you don't have a rorq, you need a station to refine in. I haven't been able to mine in the system I could refine in so I would make several trips in transports with raw ore (since I couldn't compress). It's a total pain. A freighter is a great idea but slow and easy to take down by a small gang if they are roaming. Transports you have some options but can't carry much ore.
5 - Refining isn't usually any good in null. So taking the loss or getting it compressed then jumped out is an option. Also a pita.

Wormholes give you a little more options since the rats don't respawn and it can be easier for a small group to get good ores but you have to worry about random ganks that you won't know are there from local (since it doesn't exist) and you have to constantly check your scanner for probes/ships. Getting ore out isn't as bad since you can use an orca well and you usually have one or two jumps to high sec. You could also compress if you have a rorq. Problem though is the inconsistency of ore spawns. You might go a week with out one.

I would get ramped up on mining in empire until you get a hulk and move on up to some decent T2 crystals before you go to null. Having a consistent person to compress/buy/ship ore for you out of null would also be something I wouldn't go to null without.

Life in 0.0 depends very much on the people you live with. I was discussing this with my corp mate recently and his quote was "there are so many corps and alliances out there that try to 0.0 and fail at it". Basically take all these posts in this thread as a cautionary tale of what happens when people haven't thought things though.

When you join a decent alliance, or rent space from a decent alliance they will take care of your logistics, take care of your shopping needs and so forth. People will literally bend over backwards to help you out provided you don't do anything stupid (following the rules is enough) and that you help out when needed.

When you find a corp that fits this bill they will probably expect a couple of things from you.

1) Somekind of tax. This usually works in a form of a corp/alliance mining op where everyone gets together for a couple of hours and mines something the alliance needs. Usually ice for fuel or trit to build something. Essentially what this is will be a bunch of people sitting in voice comms getting drunk and joking around while mining lasers flicker in the background. This kind of thing will probably happen maybe once a week and is mandatory, but the rest of the time you get to do whatever you want.

2) You help defend space. This means you form up for CTAs and such. Easiest way is to become a logistics pilot. Learn to fly a scimitar for instance and everyone will love you. It's much much less skill intensive then learning to use guns and you have a quick road to a carrier should you want one. Oh and did I mention everyone will love you? People love logi so much they replace your ship should you blow up. And you can probably even get a free ship to fly anyway.

3) You don't **** in anyone's cereal. This means you don't drain the fuel in jump bridges just for lols. You don't go bumping capitals. You don't misuse intel channels. Basically common sense.

As for making profits down in 0.0 land. A decent alliance will have the space locked down tight and plenty warning time should someone come knocking. Any industrial corp worth their salt will buy the ore off their miners or pay for attending mining ops. They take care of the logistics for you. Usually there are communal ships for use as long as you put it back. There will be some toon with gang bonuses sitting in local you can fleet with. And as for rats... don't worry about it. 99% of the time you will have ratters in the system, all you have to do is ask someone to come blow the **** up and they will and if it's an op there's gonna be a carrier or something doing the repping.

As long as you find the right people it's smooth sailing.

find a good alliance, and do your research first. good doesn't = lowest fee/dues. a good alliance will have refining stations in upgraded systems. a good alliance will have a jump bridge network to get you out to their area with lower risk. a good alliance/corp will have ore purchase programs so you don't have to cart all your ore back to hi-sec. a good corp/alliance should be discerning about who can join their ranks; if a corp is willing to recruit anyone without doing background checks, beware. you can check dotlan to see their space and kills in system. be wary if you see a bunch of hulk kills in their main mining system. Look them up on evewho and check their KB. see how many kills and losses they normally have, if they regularly have hulk losses in their mining systems, beware. once gankers know they can get kills in a system, the like to hang around. gl.