EVE General Discussion

I missed this one earlier due to hectic.

If you really never experienced people like that, then i can fully understand where you're coming from.

There are certainly people around that are honourable and integer.... just keep looking.

Now that the dust has settled a bit i'd like to apologize for losing my temper earlier.
You guys are very good at getting someone riled up but that is no excuse for me losing it.

I wanna just get one last thing off my chest.

I am not saying this game should be changed in any way... its way to awesome to be even thinking about that.
I say that without fully knowing all its ins and outs because ive not been playing for that long yet.
I have lots to see and learn still.

I am aware of some of the mechanics that are in the game, built in or introduced by players. And ive seen first hand how low this game can be played... i was there at the convo and i know what ive heard/read in local.

Im not going to tell about it ... its of no importance anymore and its probably much worse for me then it would be to all you guys... but it was nasty!... by anyones standard.

All im saying is that when you play with peoples emotions and feelings, you have a great responsibility. Especially when you are more savvy than your opponent. You may like this or not and it can be 'just a game' a hundred times over... but you cant just crap all over someone as ive witnessed and as seems to be common practise in this game. It will come back one day and bite you in the ass! .. or worse!

Okay im done. Fly safe.. or fly into an asteroid.. whatever floats yer boat.

OP, how much isk does a scam like this bring in?

No problem dude,
forum pvp can have that effect (oh yeah, the forums have been weponised long before either of us started playing).
just be aware that when a discussion gets heated like that and someone thinks they have you on tilt,
they will just wind you up to see how fast you spin when set loose

and this

Edit : also if it makes you feel any better Brochan McLeod, check my kill board losses (link in my sig)

Not necessarily it is very possible to enjoy the game, have fun, and take pride in your in-game accomplishments without getting emotionally invested in it. If you want to be emotionally invested in something, get a pet, a plant, a spouse and/or a child.

It's foolish to get so attached to things in this game where at least half of the point of it is to blow things up.

That was no wall of text. It at least has paragraphs. The ones that don't just burn the eyes.

For me, there's nothing wrong with Eve. I think there's a common perception because we tend to be more vocal about things we see as a problem and less vocal when things go well.

So the forums, other websites comments, blog posts, etc. are often filled with more negative than positive because who wants to come and start a thread that is "yey CCP and Eve. Such a wonderful game".

That just doesn't happen often.

But I have to say my experience in the game is almost 100% positive, not only with my Corp mates, but other people in the forum and total strangers in game.

I actually think the community is much nicer than we like to give ourselves credit for and a lot nicer and more civil than many other places on the internet where you can hide behind a veil of anonymity.

I think you are confusing isk and emotions. The suicide ganker is investing isk in their equipment they are not emotionally investing in anything. I'll repeat myself:

...in which we agree. I guess I'm nitpicking semantics.

Not sure if troll or real...

Nobody can hardly be that stupid?! O.o

So when someone tells you they will double your ISK, do you also gladly give them money just cause of blind trust and "honor"?

Also these "to hull" duels are just retarted. Grow some balls and go out and do some real pvp. Frigates are cheap and fun... DO IT!

Yes, we do have a different way of playing the game. And if you feel like continueing EVE, then at least don't post ridiculous posts saying that this somehow is what is wrong with EVE.

Risk averse people, like you who don't want to explode ships, is what is wrong with EVE and we don't need more of this kind of "blood".

I wish I could agree with your premise OP, but I think you have to restate it. You're really talking about the problems with associating with sociopaths. You can see a post like this brings them out of the woodwork and they have no problem at all crowing about their sociopathic behavior - touting it to be perfectly normal, while YOUR perspective is the problem.

They have no compunction about bragging they are not men of their word, or ladies with integrity and honor. They will boast about lying as a rule, then vilify you for getting near enough to them to hear them utter those lies. Ah, but to believe them? They'd lie in game. Why do we assume they aren't lying here? I don't. May their egos shrivel up even more.

a.) Our society generates sociopaths as a natural result of its nature.

b.) It's been happening so long people now think it IS human nature.

c.) Anyone, just anyone, can access the internet.

d.) Why wouldn't they find EVE the perfect environment?

e.) Haven't I been saying this for years now?

"The fault is not in our stars, Brutus. It is in ourselves."