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Hisec industry POS defense, post-Crius
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
#1 - 2014-10-23 23:48:01 UTC
Hello, S&I.

I'm returning from a rather long break and am setting up an industry POS in hisec. I've done this plenty before, and I know there are some great threads on the topic of starbase defenses - with this one being the granddaddy of them all and this one being a bit more recent - but that was a while ago, and I wanted to ask about how things have changed in Kronos + Crius.

In particular, I was wondering:


  • On the attacking side, does the addition of bastion marauders change anything?
  • Why do most recent threads seem to ignore small autos/arties and only mention mediums? I thought smalls were needed to effectively counter e.g. sigtanked frigates.
  • About how many smalls vs. mediums and autos vs. arties should I have, anyway?
  • It seems like warp scramblers, neuts, and sensors dampeners don't get a lot of love. Why? Are there specific attacker strategies/fits that I should anchor them for anyway to counter?
  • Now that you can access ammo storage from anywhere in the shield, you can anchor and online replacement turrets mid-combat, along with ECM. What should I expect to replace the most of - what will an intelligent attacking fleet try to kill first?
  • Yes, I know that "if enough people show up, you're losing your tower," but nobody ever gives numbers. Realistically, how large a fleet do you need to take down an online, defended large tower in hisec? 20? 50? 200?
  • Any other key advice on defending a POS, or ways it's changed recently?


Thanks. Been curious about these for a while, and a new setup is the perfect excuse to ask.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#2 - 2014-10-23 23:52:23 UTC
You no longer need standings to set a POS. Thus, its easy to set one up. If you get a war, just take your POS down, wait it out, and re-set it.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#3 - 2014-10-24 01:44:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Kethas Protagonist wrote:

  • On the attacking side, does the addition of bastion marauders change anything?
  • Why do most recent threads seem to ignore small autos/arties and only mention mediums? I thought smalls were needed to effectively counter e.g. sigtanked frigates.
  • About how many smalls vs. mediums and autos vs. arties should I have, anyway?
  • It seems like warp scramblers, neuts, and sensors dampeners don't get a lot of love. Why? Are there specific attacker strategies/fits that I should anchor them for anyway to counter?
  • Now that you can access ammo storage from anywhere in the shield, you can anchor and online replacement turrets mid-combat, along with ECM. What should I expect to replace the most of - what will an intelligent attacking fleet try to kill first?
  • Yes, I know that "if enough people show up, you're losing your tower," but nobody ever gives numbers. Realistically, how large a fleet do you need to take down an online, defended large tower in hisec? 20? 50? 200?
  • Any other key advice on defending a POS, or ways it's changed recently?

1. Not really. People rarely bother to risk that much ISK to destroy a hisec POS.
2. Frigates can't do anything but consume ammo. Bombers have a hard time evading small arty.
3. Some of each is a good idea.
4. Depends. I love them, but then I will jump into a ship to defend, and like the support; I don't need to fit EWAR.
5. Warp disruption, followed by ECM.
6. About 10 or so coordinated gunners will make mincemeat of a sub-capital fleet.
7. Don't p**s people off, and don't do stuff that makes you a target (offline tower, haul AFK, mine AFK, etc.).

Read posts by me with POS related keywords. I've answered all of this, and more, several times before.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4946006#post4946006
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1934825#post1934825
Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
#4 - 2014-10-24 02:17:31 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
stuff


Thanks, in particular for the link to the U-W0T fight. I remember reading about that back when it happened but couldn't find any links.