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The fastest way to grind standing is...

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LoBlo Fet
Terra-Formers
#1 - 2011-12-12 07:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: LoBlo Fet
Multiple choice!!!

Assuming that you start at a standing of 0.0 The fastest way to grind standing with a corporation is? (For the purposes of better refining yields, etc).

A. Security Missions, starting at level 1.
B. Cosmos missions to up Faction standing and then jump to corp missions at level 4.
C. Mining missions. Just buy all the ore from the local trade hub.
D. Other/None of the Above (please specify below.

Thanks!
Drake Daphiti
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-12-12 07:32:15 UTC
Pretty sure blitzing level 3 security missions is what is considered the fastest, not particularly sure whats the fastest to get to that point though.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#3 - 2011-12-12 08:21:35 UTC
You're almost there with option B: L3 security missions are the fastest way to continue to grind faction standings after you've gained access to the appropriate agents. To get there, check out the Faction Standings Repair Plan.

Mining missions require you to actually mine the ore out of the site in order to trigger mission completion. Distribution missions are a decent alternative if you don't feel like spending your entire life in front of the computer: but be careful about fitting out your hauler to make it harder for opportunistic gankers to extract your tears Blink
EmmaFromMarketing
Prospect Theory
#4 - 2011-12-12 08:31:04 UTC
Mara beat me to it, in addition ....

A lot depends on you - whether you are a new player learning the ropes, or an older player that has a fat wallet.

If you are an older player then the fastest way, most expensive as well, is to use a standings service. They usually charge around 100 mill per level. So 0.0 to 1.0 costs 100 mill, etc.

If you are a completely new player then:

A: that's going to take some time, but time is what you have a lot of

B: Cosmos needs minimum standings to get started, plus the combat missions are generally harder than the equivalent level combat missions, requiring good ship and combat skills. Distribution Cosmos don't need anything special apart from the minimum standings that all Cosmos agents have to get access to them.

C: Mining mission ores can be found on contract, they are not the minerals/ores you get belt mining. Doubt this is very practical.

For a newer player you should read DeMichael's Faction Standing Repair Plan, it will be in the first couple of pages in this subforum (see Mara's link) and do the tutorial missions then Sisters Epic Arc, tag hand ins if you have the isk and so on - full details in DeMichaels Plan.

You could also look for a corp that does group missioning to raise standings, there are plenty of these in high sec, you might have to look around a bit if you have a particular NPC corp you want standings with though.

HTH
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2011-12-12 10:31:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
LoBlo Fet wrote:
Assuming that you start at a standing of 0.0 The fastest way to grind standing with a corporation is?


The reference, and link to DMC's plan, relates mainly to faction standings rescue ... less so to corporation standings, altho not irrelevant.

If you are able to run lvl4 missions relatively easily then by far the fastest route up the corporate standings ladder is blitzing security missions. They boost your corp standings approximately ten times as quickly, per mission, than their non-security counterparts ... and they are generally quicker than couriers if you've got decent mission skills.

IIRC many COSMOS missions give corp as well as faction standings, but they are of limited utility for boosting corp standings.

It's generally much slower to raise your faction standings, and DMC's guide is very relevant for that, but doing so does give you access to all agents at that level, in all corps of the faction.

if you can't run missions then courier are probably next best, altho that is a terribly slow process. I also ran mining missions for MMC, but they're also very slow for not-a-lot better reward.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

LoBlo Fet
Terra-Formers
#6 - 2011-12-12 19:58:56 UTC
Thanks for the replies.

Right now I only have battlecruiser skills and weren't planning on investing in any other combat skills atm (I'm concentrating on mainly industry). I think I can handle level 3's in my Cane. I'll give it a shot.

Thanks!
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-12-12 20:17:07 UTC
LoBlo Fet wrote:
I think I can handle level 3's in my Cane. I'll give it a shot.Thanks!


Decent 'cane = easy lvl3s. Some ppl argue that you get better return on your time in lvl3 missions anyways.

good luck.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-12-12 22:24:36 UTC
Lot's of good replies and info in this thread.

However, I didn't get to toss in my 2 ISK.

Roll

LoBlo Fet wrote:
Multiple choice!!!

Assuming that you start at a standing of 0.0 The fastest way to grind standing with a corporation is? (For the purposes of better refining yields, etc).

A. Security Missions, starting at level 1.
B. Cosmos missions to up Faction standing and then jump to corp missions at level 4.
C. Mining missions. Just buy all the ore from the local trade hub.
D. Other/None of the Above (please specify below.

Thanks!


Aim for +6.70 Corporation standing to enable Tax free Refinery usage. Of course to get the most for your return, don't forget to train up the relevant refining skills.

For an Industrial character, you'll probably want to have high standings with a few different Corporations quite possibly within a few different Factions. The easiest way to achieve this is to have good Faction standing which opens up all agents in all corporations within that specific Faction.

Now to quickly gain standings, train up Connections, Social and Negotiation skills at least to level 4 asap. This will make the grind a lot easier and faster. If looking to run in a few different Factions, train up Diplomacy skill as well.

First of all, I think all newly created characters (new and old players) should complete the Tutorial/Career Agent missions just to get a good jump start into the game. Not only do they give the player various items such as ships, modules, skillbooks, implants, etc., they also give corporation and Faction standing gain.

Now for the main part, complete missions for the level 1 Event Agents starting with a quick round of courier missions for the Circle Agents. Then complete the level 1 Data Center 'Cert' missions and finish with the level 1 'Tag' missions.

By now you should easily have access to regular level 3 agents in all corporations pertaining to that specific Faction. Pick a couple of different corporations and complete courier missions for Distribution agents. Try to set it up where you're traveling back and forth between 2 or 3 different areas. This will quickly increase standings with various corporations at the same time.


LoBlo Fet wrote:
Thanks for the replies.

Right now I only have battlecruiser skills and weren't planning on investing in any other combat skills atm (I'm concentrating on mainly industry). I think I can handle level 3's in my Cane. I'll give it a shot.

Thanks!


Since your plan is to mainly be an Industrial character, I would concentrate more on completing Distribution missions. Those can be completed much quicker leading to more Storyline mission offers which give a large Corporation standing increase along with the Faction increase.

Anyway, that's my 2 ISK worth. Good luck to you.
Hamatitio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-13 00:35:38 UTC
Clever use of storyline missions is a very fast way to get corporate standings.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2011-12-13 00:58:56 UTC
Hamatitio wrote:
Clever use of storyline missions is a very fast way to get corporate standings.


As I see it they're generally good for faction standings boosts and some are good for corp standings but not so good for faction, but they all require you to complete 16 'normal' missions to get a storyline. It seems to me that those 16 missions are the main factor in your corp standings boosts, and there's not much that's clever about that, and then the storyline gives you either mainly faction or corp standings.

I'd love to hear about how to be more clever with storylines.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Astraeus Svarog
Premier Logistics and Brokerage
#11 - 2011-12-13 01:46:32 UTC
EmmaFromMarketing wrote:
Mara beat me to it, in addition ....


If you are an older player then the fastest way, most expensive as well, is to use a standings service. They usually charge around 100 mill per level. So 0.0 to 1.0 costs 100 mill, etc.



This has always made me wonder since the existence of an honor code barely exists in EvE, how exactly do those who run these services know what your standing is? I don't mean to ask such an ignorant question, but couldn't someone state that they are not at the level they have paid for even though they are? In other words, paying 100 mil for 0.0 -> 1.0 standing and finally telling them that you are at 1.0 when they have actually grinded you to 1.6 or another higher standing than 1.0.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2011-12-13 02:20:20 UTC
if you provide them with your api key, or whatever it's called, they can check for themselves without having to login to your account.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Hamatitio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-13 03:32:57 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Hamatitio wrote:
Clever use of storyline missions is a very fast way to get corporate standings.


As I see it they're generally good for faction standings boosts and some are good for corp standings but not so good for faction, but they all require you to complete 16 'normal' missions to get a storyline. It seems to me that those 16 missions are the main factor in your corp standings boosts, and there's not much that's clever about that, and then the storyline gives you either mainly faction or corp standings.

I'd love to hear about how to be more clever with storylines.


Despite your bitter attitude, I will gladly elaborate.

The storyline missions are given out after your 16th mission. You are assigned the closest storyline agent to your location where you finish the 16th mission.

So lets say you have a +10 caldari navy corp standing, and a 0 Lai Dai standing. You can do 15 level 4 missions for your favorite caldari navy agent, then move over to a random agent that is generally in the system of the lai dai storyline agent.

You complete whatever mission that agent gives you, hauling, mining, etc. And the lai dai storyline agent will give you a mission, which will give you a significant boost to that corporation, as well as faction.

Build upon that and adapt it to your present situation.
Joe For Sale
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-12-13 03:46:34 UTC
Hamatitio wrote:

You complete whatever mission that agent gives you, hauling, mining, etc. And the lai dai storyline agent will give you a mission, which will give you a significant boost to that corporation, as well as faction.

Build upon that and adapt it to your present situation.


*Provided you have an L4 agent close enough to the storyline agent you're after. It helps to have lots of tertiary corps with high standing to do this. Also, you get the nearest storyline agent of the same faction you've been working for (iirc), so you couldn't say, grind caldari navy missions and grab a minmatar/gallente aligned corp storyline mission.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#15 - 2011-12-13 05:47:10 UTC
Don't forget to train the correct social skills, those will quickly bounce you out of the L1 headache missions. Your rep will really jump with the story line missions.

Social to at least 4 (5 takes less than a week) - More rep earned per mission
Connections to at least 3 (5 takes around two weeks) - Better status to impress agents (you can get to L3 and L4 agents sooner)
If you have trade to 4 then there are also the Connections books for the three types (Mining, Distribution, Security) but they run 20mil isk each or so.

If you are not in to combat much, go with distribution agents (delivery missions). Printout a map of your area, find a station that has several agents in it, grab a large industrial and plan out the run. I don't think I've seen a level 4 distribution mission in the last few months that needed more the 8000m3. I do these sometimes while making dinner, especially now that autopilot will dock up. (example,Deepari is a starter system, four jumps from Amarr, has one station, is a dead end, and has six distribution L1 agents. Eba has three L2 dist agents, Akhragan has 3 L3 dist agents, Isamm has three L4 dist agents )

In terms of time versus rank increase, you will probably find L3 combat missions to be the best bet, they simply run faster and with a heavily tanked ship you can grind through several missions in a couple hours.

Mining missions suck. They include things like gas mining and 'mission only ore'. You often that to fly from a warp in point to the asteroids or ice you need to mine and those distances are just a time sink.

One last note, if you are going to R&D down the road, you might want to scope what each corp has to offer.

-Mad

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2011-12-14 00:35:55 UTC
Hamatitio wrote:
Despite your bitter attitude, I will gladly elaborate.


LOL. I'd not have thought that asking for elaboration on something i don't get as being 'bitter'. Curious interpretation. Still, this **is** eve.

Thanks for your explanation, now I better understand what you meant with your 'clever' refernce to storyline use.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Hamatitio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-12-14 01:11:06 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Hamatitio wrote:
Despite your bitter attitude, I will gladly elaborate.


LOL. I'd not have thought that asking for elaboration on something i don't get as being 'bitter'. Curious interpretation. Still, this **is** eve.

Thanks for your explanation, now I better understand what you meant with your 'clever' refernce to storyline use.



No problem, I've grown bitter with all the trolls on the forums lately.

They used to stayin crime and punishment an general discussion, but that was many years ago.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-14 01:50:46 UTC
Hamatitio wrote:
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Hamatitio wrote:
Despite your bitter attitude, I will gladly elaborate.


LOL. I'd not have thought that asking for elaboration on something i don't get as being 'bitter'. Curious interpretation. Still, this **is** eve.

Thanks for your explanation, now I better understand what you meant with your 'clever' refernce to storyline use.



No problem, I've grown bitter with all the trolls on the forums lately.

They used to stayin crime and punishment an general discussion, but that was many years ago.



I hear ya on the trolls. I can personally attest however that Nigra is most definitely not bitter noir a troll
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2011-12-14 02:04:41 UTC
Lol, thanks Derath. Thanks also for the clarification re the 'bitter' comment ... just a misunderstood communication, as so often is the case.

i am not troll, and try hard to help ppl where i can. That all-too-often falls flat or gets misunderstood, but I will keep trying.
I do confess to getting occasionally angry, frustrated, and bitter with people ... but am not inherently bitter.

My view of trolling? Not so much earlier today I posted this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=513983#post513983

Fly safe.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#20 - 2011-12-14 02:17:16 UTC
LoBlo Fet wrote:
Thanks for the replies.

Right now I only have battlecruiser skills and weren't planning on investing in any other combat skills atm (I'm concentrating on mainly industry). I think I can handle level 3's in my Cane. I'll give it a shot.

Thanks!

My Hurricane that I'm sleeping through level 3 missions in, because it is too easy:

[Hurricane, Level 3]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Reactive Plating II
Magnetic Plating II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Cap Recharger II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
10MN Afterburner II

650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I, Depleted Uranium M
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650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I, Depleted Uranium M
650mm Medium 'Scout' Artillery I, Depleted Uranium M
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Flameburst Light Missile
'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Flameburst Light Missile

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
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