Science & Industry

Part of me likes reading these threads, always hoping CCP take notice....

...but they never do.

They need to step up and deliver the Rorq redevelopment promised for 1.1. That would be a great start. Already overdue, so much for their vaunted 6-week cycle.

-As previously mentioned, lack of low ends in nullsec and an overabundance of high ends. (Wtb a Veld rock the size of a moon).
-Not getting stuck on rocks +
-Fix Mining drones. When I started out (Halada's guide) I used to sit no further then 1000m from a rock and unleash drones. This upped my isk/hr quite nicely. Now, with the removal of grav sites and changes to inties there's no chance in hell I'll risk getting stuck.

-Capital mining ship (capital strip miners!). Look at Chribba (Veldnought, Veldbus), take note. Mining is really, really, really boring and a poor way of making money. Eg, a well fitted Marauder or Mach can pump out 100mil/hr+ doing sanctums and such, while you barely break that mark running a maxed out Rorqual booster + 4 maxed out miners + implants. Even lvl4s/Incurions are better and at least less boring.
-T3 mining ship, customisable.

Rorq update first though please.

Here's a workaround: move to Europe.

Ore and Ice sites going back to needing to be scanned down.

A more fanciful idea involved being able to break the larger rocks into smaller chunks and maneuver them into a rorq for processing ~ Ore Excavation Laser (on the scale of a DD but only for rocks/ice) The rorq does the breaking and receiving but another ship akin to a noctis does the manuvering

As an industrialist myself I have to disagree with adding mega to those 2 rock types. If people want Mega either go to null or place a buy order. Adding high end mins to anom spawn rocks in Hi is not a fix, it just adds one more reason to not do industry in null.

Ice needs to change. Having ice anoms spawn like clockwork is no different from having a fixed belt. Move Ice to cosmic sigs like gas clouds and at least make people work to get it rather than set an alarm clock

Skiff is fine as is. Serves its purpose of lowish yield with better tank. If you crank up the yield on a skiff then you are technbiclly asking for more reward with less risk.

I really like the idea of prospecting - particularly more valuable ores and ices. A mobile depot would allow a barge/exhumer to fit for prospecting and then refit for ore/ice depending on what they found.

Discoveries should be similar to current small anomalies with a mix of good quality ores suited for solo or small group mining.

Conventional belts of Veldspar and Scordite will best suit fleet mining and new players who haven't trained prospecting skills.

This past weekend I mined several ore anomalies and noticed that a barge full of Pyroxeres is currently worth more than the same barge full of Jaspet, Hermorphite, or Hedbergite so where is the incentive to mine in lowsec or nulsec? A few will go for the adventure but most people are risk adverse - "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush".

It's understood that ganking is an honorable profession in Eve but there are a couple of pain points. First, the gank squad can use bumping to tackle their prey with no consequences. I'm not objecting to the tackle but the fact that it is not considered an act of aggression seems unbalanced! Second, an entire squad of gank Catalysts can be controlled by a single player using tools like ISBoxer. I don't object to multiboxing as long as each instance is controlled separately but I believe CCP should follow the lead of other MMO's and ban tools that allow a command to be sent to all instances simultaneously - yes I realize that miners also abuse these tools - it will be a better game without them.

"bot-aspirant?" could you be more of a code sycophant? or maybe you're just a code alt. I'm not fond of his idea but code roll play terminology sucks wads.

Not interested in changing anything about current rock mining...except adding a lot more mineral types and uses for them. I would like to see metalurgy adding something like alloy production and see alloy useful in it's own right instead of treating it like a by-product. I would like a new class of production items "fasteners" - nuts and bolt, glues and ties, screws and caulking necessary for construction with the purpose of giving young manufacturers a way to be further inolved in larger construction projects. Yes, this would add to bp manufacturing.

Comet mining - either as outlined earlier or something else. Whatever it is it needs to add pve danger to mining... and I'd like to see a more complicated comet mining meta game to add value to the operation. A High speed and adrenaline producing activity would be appreciated. I liked the idea posted some time back of requiring some type of cooperative comet mining between players to increase value as long as its tough (read difficult for a single player to pull off with many accounts.

Advanced Gas Harvesting - requiring new or modified ships and modules. Do not change anything about the current gas mining.. instead add solar plasma harvesting that requires advanced heat management, avoidance of flares, and possibly managing gravity and solar wind. Add weird and dangerous harvesting of dark matter.

Create new uses for these mining types so as not to flood markets with existing material and to give us new skills to train.

Would like a better range of mining rigs..and mining implants that would allow better fine tuning for different situations.

Bring back some of the value to high sec at least for things that really have little value or place in null sec areas. High sec should not be low sec or null sec lite. It should be it's own thing with equality in play to other areas. Yes, high sec can be more dangerous than other areas. Accept that, recognize the risk and return commensurate value for that risk. (no, I don't want to hear how you made 3 billion on the market without hearing what you spent and how long it took and how many people were involved) in fairness trade is not just a high sec activity; you can engage in the high sec market without living in high sec or even traveling into high sec.

to be continued...

I would like the ability to create a mining camp in a belt. It would use asteroids as part of the camp the way they are used in some mission plexes. They could not be build in null sec or high sec.. low sec only. They would be temporary and would include no shield but they would not be made out of paper mache the way some POSes are. ...no taking out of a mining camp with a few cruisers sorry. The camp would have sentries, give a small boost to mining, and have a storage locker. When the belt empties the camp would disappear.

I like the idea about comet mining.



What about ice mining for your relax? There's nothing more... quiet... than that. You want to be a cactus, then go ice mining.

IMHO the ore mining is boring and needs a revamp, something that makes it more challenging or entertaining. At the moment the only "fun" about it is calculating the roids size and guess what % of your miner cycle is enough before de-activating your module at the precise moment the roid pops so you waste less time. And you sir are proposing to get rid of this only entertaining part of nowadays mining.

You still can relax and chat/afk while ore mining you are just going to earn less iskies, that's fair IMO as active players should earn more, that's the incentive.

Oh, I like this idea!

But...but...

That's like approaching a someone in 1998, holding a brand-spanking-new Nokia 6110, proclaiming "Let's take a selfie!". It would leave said person completely baffled!

Now is a more appropriate time for such shenanigans!

*crosses fingers*