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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-22 20:06:12 UTC
Is a system with a rating of -0.07 classed as nullsec?

And going by the map system security rating goes down to -0.09 and lower, so as Concord presence ceases at 0.0, does that mean null sec gets more dangerous the lower the minus rating it gets?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-10-22 20:13:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Sec status

Dangerous is a relative term with many variables. So, maybe.

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Hicksimus
Torgue
#3 - 2014-10-22 20:16:57 UTC
-1.0 to 0.0 = nullsec

The closer you get to -1 the better the ore and anoms get.

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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-10-22 20:38:10 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Sec status

Dangerous is a relative term with many variables. So, maybe.


Thanks for the link, but it doesn't really give me any answers.

System B-R5RB where I am heading for has a security rating of -0.07, and several of the surrounding systems also have security ratings of -0.0n.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2014-10-22 20:43:47 UTC
1.0 to .5 = High Security space (aka Highsec). Gate guns, CONCORD, Faction police and Customs, "Safety", Entitlement.
.4 to .1 = Low Security space (aka Lowsec). Gate guns. Pirates, Faction war and general asshattery, Singing Ransoms.
.0 to -1.0 = Null Security space (aka Nullsec, 0.0). Bubbles, Bombs, Gate camps, Advanced asshattery, Entitlement.
-1.0 (Wormhole) = Wormhole space (aka WH). No local, No gates, Probe or die, Everything wants to kill you. Literally Space Austrailia.

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Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-10-22 20:55:18 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Sec status

Dangerous is a relative term with many variables. So, maybe.


Thanks for the link, but it doesn't really give me any answers.

System B-R5RB where I am heading for has a security rating of -0.07, and several of the surrounding systems also have security ratings of -0.0n.



You must not have read it then.

Q: Is a system with a rating of -0.07 classed as nullsec?

Copy and pasted from the article that didn't give any answers:

True Security

A given system's security level is actually a real number between -1.0 and 1.0 (this is known as the system's True Security Level, True-Sec, or Truesec). It is modified and rounded and displayed as the system's security level according to the following rules: [3]
-1.0 to 0.0 = nullsec
0.0 to 0.05 = rounded up to lowsec (0.1 security level)
0.05 to 0.45 = rounded half up (lowsec)
0.45 to 1.0 = rounded half up (highsec)
For nullsec systems it may be useful to know a system's true security, as even though all nullsec systems are displayed as "0.0" in the game, they have true security ratings from -1.0 up to 0.0 - and this true security rating affects various game mechanics, such as asteroid belt and rat quality. A system's rounded truesec value is available via the in-game map, and the unrounded value can be found through the official datadump or any third-party utilities that use the datadump or the data extracted from it.

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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-10-22 21:02:52 UTC
I did read the link.

I'm going by what the map says regarding system security status when you place the cursor over the o, and for B-R5RB it says -0.07.
Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2014-10-22 21:05:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Welp, you would certainly be good at the isk doubling game. Roll

Did you know that -0.07 falls between 0.0 and -1.0?

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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-10-22 21:10:55 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Welp, you would certainly be good at the isk doubling game. Roll

Did you know that -0.07 falls between 0.0 and -1.0?


I was never good at maths at school and since Sad - was good at woodwork though. Big smile

SO, as B-R5RB is -0.07 does that make its security rating really -1.0, or really really dangerous?
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2014-10-22 21:11:41 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Welp, you would certainly be good at the isk doubling game. Roll

Did you know that -0.07 falls between 0.0 and -1.0?



Its players like these that are the reason we cant use "The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch" in Eve.

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Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2014-10-22 21:23:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Its players like these that are the reason we cant use "The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch" in Eve.

the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20: wrote:
Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruitbats ...

And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin.
Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three.

Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.

Five is right out.

Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

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Paranoid Loyd
#12 - 2014-10-22 21:26:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Adela Talvanen wrote:
I was good at woodwork though. Big smile


If you have a 5/4 board milled to 1" and take .93" off what do you have left besides a bunch of saw dust? Blink

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2014-10-22 21:32:47 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
I was good at woodwork though. Big smile


If you have a 5/4 board milled to 1" and take .93" off what do you have left? Blink


A paper thin veneer and depending on the type of wood, a **** load of expensive sawdust.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#14 - 2014-10-22 21:36:50 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
I was good at woodwork though. Big smile


If you have a 5/4 board milled to 1" and take .93" off what do you have left besides a bunch of saw dust? Blink
1.77mm of veneer.

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Paranoid Loyd
#15 - 2014-10-22 21:43:42 UTC
Ok bad example, if you have a 5/4 board surfaced to 1", and use a CNC mill to drill a hole referencing the top of the part to -.93" how much further do you need to go to drill all the way through the board?

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#16 - 2014-10-22 21:53:54 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Ok bad example, if you have a 5/4 board surfaced to 1", and use a CNC mill to drill a hole referencing the top of the part to -.93" how much further do you need to go to drill all the way through the board?


Please specify species of wood, and brand of CNC machine as well as the brand and type of milling bit being used. Also, what is the tolerance of the hole specification?

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Paranoid Loyd
#17 - 2014-10-22 22:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Azobé, Sharp Manual Mill retrofitted with a DRO, 1/2" Titanium-coated drill bit, Ø.500 (±.030) x ↓.93 (+0.000,-0.030)

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The Troll Bridge
#18 - 2014-10-22 22:45:28 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Azobé, Sharp Manual Mill retrofitted with a DRO, 1/2" Titanium-coated drill bit, Ø.500 (±.030) x ↓.93 (+0.000,-0.030)


Ok.. NOW we can math this thing out. Seeing as that Azobé is a dense hardwood, we can assume that we wont have any hole splintering or tearout as we approach the end of the hole. Ill go ahead and assume that the bit is a quality American manufactured piece and not a cheap one, so we can assume that the flutes are true and centered. If we take into account the tolerances specified above, and a small margin for error due to stacking of tolerances and the quality of the retrofitting, tolerances in programming and general skill of the programmer, we can safely assume that a system with -0.07 is indeed ******* Nullsec.

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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#19 - 2014-10-22 22:52:07 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Welp, you would certainly be good at the isk doubling game. Roll

Did you know that -0.07 falls between 0.0 and -0.1?


FYP
OP thinks truesec is a metric of danger, there's the misunderstanding.
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The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2014-10-22 22:54:38 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
TV makes sarcasm look brave and clever, explaining why the thread turned to pure ****.


I have no clue why the forums censored the word "gold".

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