Crime & Punishment

Haha this is true to be fair, maybe I will buy yet more shares, because the New Order is an awesome thing in this game

In truth the thanks thing was just a lame excuse covering for the fact that I don't have it in me to sell mining permits. And James 315 is clearly a busy man, as can be seen by the amount of share purchases he processes. He is doing a great job.

The reality of the situation though is that it hurts my head too much trying to spread adherence to the code, because, some carebears are really dumb. I've even got a stalker following me about too

Welcome to the club. I have three active stalkers right now, although only one is the least bit competent, he was neutralized with a war dec, the others are nothing more than gnats.

I actually dig mining.

It's hardly mindless, well it isn't if you want to survive.

And you've got to be prepared to lose ships, just like any other profession in EVE

worst role play ever.. seriously, worse then anything out of Providence.

I am primarily industrial as well. I don't think high sec mining is killing Eve. The game is designed to allow players to do almost anything as long as they are willing to accept the risks and consequences of their actions. This game has a very high learning curve; I know I've made my share of noob mistakes and taken my share of losses because of it. There is a lot of stuff that is "unfair" to newer players. The older players have better skills, more resources to draw on, and (biggest advantage of all) generally know the game better. One could rage about that unfairness all day and it won't sway the devs in the slightest. A better option is to join a corp with older players willing to put up with noob questions and learn; it's more fun than whining and more rewarding in the long run.

I find mining can be fun; it's somewhat relaxing (when you just want a somewhat mindless activity that lets you still make ISK to work towards your goals) and there is usually someone to chat with while you sit there if you're in a corp with players on at the same time as you. Far as I'm concerned, AFK miners know the risks. I wouldn't say they "deserve" to get blown up, but I would say that they know there is risk of it and they can't defend against it if they aren't at the keyboard. So far, it seems the safest way to mine is to be smart about it. Be alert, be a hard target, and tank up (if you can't run fast enough or get ambushed, that at least gives the best chance of surviving til Concord shows up). It's also wise to avoid carrying high value stuff; that just paints a big bullseye on you.

Part of the beauty of Eve is the sheer variety of stuff we can do. I can understand someone having an alt set up just for resource gathering, but if there are people in Eve who do nothing else...I'd assume they are either casual players here just to socialize or that they are missing out on most of the fun and will eventually get bored and leave.

Thank you once again for another instalment of this very enlightening and entertaining manifesto.

When talking about competing visions, we are pitting one group of players against another, and if you dissatisfy one group significantly, you might start losing their membership. Should we care if the "carebear" population starts to leave the game if their ships are blown up on a more regular basis? On one hand, you might say that it makes EVE more pure to its intent - being a PvP game, but on the other hand, you want to make sure that the game is earning sufficient revenue so that the developers can maintain and expand the gameplay.

I don't know if the "balancing" war between gankers and carebears in terms of ease of gankability is the right way to fight this by either side. I think the flaw is on the economic benefit that miners can derive from high sec mining.

If you take WoW for an example, a player, even on a PvP server, can "blue flag" (i.e., not be attacked by others) for the initial leveling zones. Think of it as absolute security. It would be a travesty if these initial leveling zones were seeded with resources that were considered valuable to end-game players. Players can only mine relatively valueless copper ore or light leather skins. In terms of gold per hour, this type of activity would definitely not be pursued.

In EVE however, taking a look at ore prices, there isn't much differentiation between the different rocks, despite the fact that certain rocks can be mined in relative safety. I think that is the biggest flaw in the resource acquisition aspect of this game. Perhaps the better idea is to significantly nerf the mining yield in higher security systems (call it a CONCORD tax for their near instant intervention). It really should be a more thoughtful decision on where to mine.

Nerf the high sec mining profits, while maintaining the high security safety seems to be the right way of doing this. After all, if some people do not want to engage in any PvP, I'd rather have them continue to fund the game, but at a significant economic penalty. Let them collect their light leather skins and copper ore and have little impact on the rest of the players, except by giving the developers more money to entertain the rest of us.

Excellent! I can now listen to the whole thing in one go and meditate on the Saviour's words.

We are all in your debt Sasha for putting a voice to this important piece of Eve's cultural history.

But interaction with other people is scary!

Why would you scorn people for role-playing in a role-playing game? Do you also scorn people who kick the ball in football?

Project much?